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Kettlebell Advice from Al or Pavel on PM

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Kiacek

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I have started program minimum as interpreted by the free workbook Anthony put out years ago.
I do gtg getups and crush curls as recommended by Steve.

I was reading the talk about "a & a" on the forum, and I wondered if the increasing reps per set is still recommended. It seems that this falls within glycolic pathway emphasis, but it is just twice a week so I thought I would ask.

If it helps I am doing original strength as my active recovery and I have used Kettlebells for about 12 years, but in varying capacities.
 
@Kiacek, welcome to the StrongFirst forum.

I suggest you consider doing Kettlebell Simple and Sinister - it's a more recent program and is in keeping with the "A+A" you read about on the forum here. Since we don't know the specifics of the program you're following, it's difficult for us to comment on it.

-S-
 
I have started program minimum as interpreted by the free workbook Anthony put out years ago.
I do gtg getups and crush curls as recommended by Steve.

I was reading the talk about "a & a" on the forum, and I wondered if the increasing reps per set is still recommended. It seems that this falls within glycolic pathway emphasis, but it is just twice a week so I thought I would ask.

If it helps I am doing original strength as my active recovery and I have used Kettlebells for about 12 years, but in varying capacities.

What are your goals? What else, physically, are you doing? How would you rate your overall stress? Do you sleep well, etc?
 
@Steve Freides Thank you for the warm welcome and suggestion.

@aciampa

Goals are general physical health on a limited time allotment, I also want to stay attractive for my wife as we age (the latter is equally important to me as the former).

I deliver furniture 40+ hours a week. I also rock climb mid-week for a couple hours, which is for fun but leaves my rear delts and forearms burnt until the weekend. Also, I start off every day with Original Strength and stretching, but this is restorative. That's the majority of the physical work I am currently doing other than my workouts.

As far as stress, I'm pretty good about using techniques from Wiseman to prevent ongoing stress reactions and I don't have any major external stressors.

Finally, I sleep rock solid for 7-8 hours a night.

Thank you for responding to my post, I have a lot of respect for your advice.
 
@Kiacek, if you're moving furniture all day, I will guess - just a guess, of course - that any body composition changes you desire will be better achieved through changes in diet and not changes in exercise.

Simple and Sinister is a great program to run on the back burner while you're doing other things.

And if I may cast a vote for the good, old barbell, you could do a lot worse than to bench press on Saturdays and deadlift or squat on Sundays, and keep it easy during the week.

Please say more about "Wiseman" - perhaps a link.

-S-
 
Please say more about "Wiseman" - perhaps a link.

I'm with Steve here.

That's the majority of the physical work I am currently doing other than my workouts.
I have started program minimum as interpreted by the free workbook Anthony put out years ago.
I do gtg getups and crush curls as recommended by Steve.

Can you expand on exactly what you're doing?

Your answer aside, S&S by the book is probably the way to go. I like Steve's barbell advice too, just keep the loading moderate.

Thank you for responding to my post, I have a lot of respect for your advice.

Thank you!
 
Richard Wiseman is Britain's professor for the Public Understanding of Psychology, he has written books such as 59 seconds and the as if principle. His work brings research to the public in a simple do this manner.

59 Seconds: Change Your Life in Under a Minute: Richard Wiseman: 9780307474865: Amazon.com: Books

The workout I am doing is Steve Baccari's program minimum plus (from 2007). It replaces the getup workout with gtg 1/1 getup and 3-5 crush curls. Also, it adds overhead lockout walks to the end of the swing workout.

I'm following Anthony DiLuglio recommendations on programming the swing workout. 20 reps swings then 1 min active recovery (I chose original strength). Each week add 10 reps to the sets until you hit 50.

https://www.amazon.com/Enter-Kettlebell-Workbook-Art-Strength/dp/1494738155

I like the do this nature of Anthony's workbook, it fills in the details and tells you exactly what to do.

But it sounds like S&S has replaced this methodology (increasing reps in the swing). Or at least has proven superior to it.

I will look into S&S.

Also, is active recovery still allowed between sets?

Steve and Al, I appreciate the advice and taking the time to respond to my questions. Thank you.
 
Welcome to the forum, the nicest and most helpful place on the interwebs! So working a job that requires you to carry moderately heavy things around is something I'm familiar with. S&S is a a great program, and can very easily work that requires moving stuff. My advice take good chunk of active recovery time between swings tgu. And most days don't sweat pushing the time down for swings. Even if you take your time your average session should only take you 25-40min.
 
Wiseman - you may like to know that this prof of psychology did a double blind trial over a period of weeks at a science festival in Edinburgh on the cost and taste of wine.....is more expensive plonk tastier than the cheap stuff? No.
Wine and science. Price is no indicator of quality. That's the kind of science I like. He's been promoted as my most favourite boffin ever. Cheers, hic.
 
Maine
Thanks for the tips!

Ali
I don't know what a boffin is, but I agree that Wiseman is awesome.
 
Just wanted to thank Al and Steve again.
I've been doing my swings with aerobic recovery instead of active recovery (not sure im using the term aerobic recovery correctly) 10x10.
What a difference this makes in how I feel after a workout.
I can't thank you enough for the advice, and I'm looking forward to seeing how this changes my stats over the next year.
I love this concept of training so much more than anything I've done with ballistics before, now that I've been doing it that is.
This may be my favorite workout ever!
 
Yes, etk minimum worked like miracle before s&s was released. After that it magically broke down and don’t deliver results anymore. :D

I think that they both are great. I think etk pm is better program for conditioning and fatloss, but s&s works better for strenght. Mainly because frequency is higher..

Good thing about etk pm is that you can really focus that only movement that you are doing on that day. Also your tgu strenght will rise, but propably littlebit slower.

And If you build your swings up to 200+ reps with decent bell. Magic should happen... :)
 
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To be clear, I'm still doing the program minimum, I'm just using S&S principles instead of the old principles.

I prefer 2 hand swings, because I can use more weight.
And I like the layout of alternating getup days with swing days.

But prefer the programing of the swing and getup from S&S (rep, sets, rest scheme that is).
I also like working out everyday, and I love the S&S idea of not letting an off day turn into a day off.

Plus I was already on the program minimum, and I don't like changing to many variables of my workouts at a time.

But the principles underlying S&S are awesome.
 
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