Improved technique _is_ getting stronger.
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Who's stronger, a lion or a whale? It depends on whether we're talking about on land or in water.
If it's not technique, what is it? I
The deadlift has tremendous carryover for lots of people - it changed my life, and that's why I started doing it.@Steve Freides do you think your increased strength through technique has made you stronger overall? Therefore having a carry over? Or is it limited to the deadlift?
I could not disagree more - my improvement is solely because of improvements in my technique. Whether those improvements are because of "Pavel stuff" or because I've learned to position my knees better at the start is immaterial - both things are part of my deadlift technique.In your case, Steve, I doubt you have issues with the mechanics of doing the deadlift. Sure, there's always room for improvement, but like I said, the deadlift is not that complex and you can only get so much better.
those improvements are because of "Pavel stuff" or because I've learned to position my knees better at the start is immaterial - both things are part of my deadlift technique.
I could not disagree more - my improvement is solely because of improvements in my technique. Whether those improvements are because of "Pavel stuff" or because I've learned to position my knees better at the start is immaterial - both things are part of my deadlift technique.
I just wanted to tell you that I understood what you meant from the beginning and I was thinking about a way to describe it, to help you out.What I'm concerned about, and what this thread is asking, is transferability. Let's say that by standing a half inch closer to the bar my deadlift goes up 20 lbs. A ridiculous example but it will show my thinking. Will this technique improvement transfer to my being able to lift an odd shaped rock? No. This technique improvement will only help me to deadlift a barbell that is uniformly loaded and where the bar is off the ground the exact same height as a regulation weight plate. Now, let's say that through training the deadlift I get really good at pressurizing my abdomen to maintain a rigid core. As a result I deadlift 20 lbs. more. Will this technique improvement transfer to my being able to lift an odd shaped rock? Yes because that particular skill is more general in nature. Being able to maintain a rigid core transfers to picking stuff up off the ground.
To answer the question of which is "better" you need to define a goal or a some sort of preferable outcome.Would it be a good idea to do the deadlift single handed, since it is supposed to be better to swing kettelbells single handedly?
There’s a time and a place for everything. I generally choose to do the regular DL because it can be loaded heavily, and do some 1-legged deadlifts with a kettlebell.Would it be a good idea to do the deadlift single handed, since it is supposed to be better to swing kettelbells single handedly?
Thank you. Thank you for taking my questions seriously. I was doing great with S&S and thus not in need of asking questions like a firehose (a new expression I learned on these forums) but then with my shoulder discomfort waiting to heal I`ve had to ask more questions. The TGU still isn`t comfortable, so I have more energy in my workouts to devote to other moves than the 1 handed swing, so barbell curls, 2 handed heavy swings, carries etc...There’s a time and a place for everything. I generally choose to do the regular DL because it can be loaded heavily, and do some 1-legged deadlifts with a kettlebell.
To be clear, the 1-arm kettlebell swing isn’t better in some existential way; it is simply our choice for our minimalist program. If you have the opportunity, by all means add some heavy 2-handed swings to your training.
@Pavel Macek and I have started a article on what is the “best” kettlebell swing and why, modeled on some of Pavel Tsatsouline’s blogs about what is the best squat, etc. I will have to get back to that one.
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Strength for something like judo.To answer the question of which is "better" you need to define a goal or a some sort of preferable outcome.
S&S is GPP and for GPP the 1H-Swing simply is more "bang for your bucks". That's it.One-Arm Swing
A passage in Nassim Nicholas Taleb’s Antifragile caught my eye: “People who build strength using these modern expensive gym machines can lift extremely large weights, show great numbers and develop impressive-looking muscles, but fail to lift a stone; they get completely hammered in a street fight by someone trained in more disorderly settings. Their strength is extremely domain-specific and their domain doesn’t exist outside.” “Disorderly settings” are what you need when you are after all-terrain strength. Enter the one-arm swing. The bell not only pulls you forward, but it is determined to twist you as well. It is seriously “antifragile” when a man can show a 48kg who is the boss, or a woman a 32kg. An asymmetrical load seriously challenges the stabilizers and increases the recruitment of many muscles. When I swung a 32kg kettlebell two-handed in Prof. Stuart McGill’s lab, my glutes fired up to 80% maximal voluntary isometric contraction (MVC). When I did it one-handed, the recruitment was up to 100%. And the lat contraction jumped from 100% to 150%! In case you are wondering how it is possible to contract a muscle 150%, the max is isometric. In dynamic contractions higher values are possible— plyometrics are a case in point. The swing on the left generates more power. The one on the right recruits more muscle. Last but not least, the one-arm swing is an exceptional grip-builder. Why would you do two-arm swings at all if the one-arm version is so great? Because two-arm swings generate more power, as proven on the force platform. With reduced stabilization demands, you can really let it rip. Hence, do both types of swings. When you are very competent in the two-arm swing, and not a moment sooner, add the one-arm swing to your practice.
Tsatsouline, Pavel. Kettlebell Simple & Sinister (Kindle-Positionen481-500). Kindle-Version.
Strength for something like judo.