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Kettlebell Loaded Carries

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MarkSch said:
@Steve Freides

I m pretty much devoted to kettlebells, both for time and cost ( I train at home)
Are barbells the only way to get into serious deadlifting ? I;m about 177 pounds, so they just do seem heavy enough.
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I can answer that for you at 147 lbs.

No kettle bells are too light for deadlifting. But 2 handed swings give similar, if not equal, benefits. Personally I've had most WTH effects with Swings and Bent Presses (S&S fashion) AFTER 4 years of focusing on deadlifts and pull ups. Wouldn't worry about it too much if I were you.

ATM I think nothing can match a heavy farmers walk (bodyweight and beyond) Few weeks, doing them for progression, and getting thick all over... need new pants, #&%( !
 
@MarkSch, pick up heavy things and put them down. That's deadlifting. You won't get into real weight with kettlebells unless you've got 100+ lb. kettlebells, and even a pair of those isn't enough, and it's too hard to fine-tune the weights.

PTTP - buy a 4' x 6' x 3/4" rubber mat and a 300 lb. starter Olympic weight set (it'll be a 45 lb. bar and 255 lbs. of weights), and you're good to go. You can find used weights for less on local lists like craigslist.

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Steve Freides said:
Yeah, it's kind of tough to explain to people, but once you've experienced it, you realize what a tremendous lift it is and how it seems to carryover to just about everything.

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The deadlift is so time efficient too. I'm lucky enough to be a judo wrestler, so I apply my strength almost every day of the week against other tough guys, and so I can test out different moves' strength benefits. The deadlift does indeed seem to eclipse nearly everything else with the exception of a "big push" movement, but since the legs are being taken care of with the dealift, the "big push" can be something with just the upper body, like ring dips (excellent for judo as I move my own body around), military presses, or theoretically pushups or bench presses (which I do not do these days).

Swings are important particularly if you aren't doing an athletic sport, in order to work on endurance and intense cardio. For strength, and we put strength first at Strong First I think, deadlifts far outperform them, of course.
 
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Smile-n-Nod said:
I think the guidelines for Cook carries are two minutes each for the overhead, rack, and suitcase carry, repeating for each hand. That's 12 minutes. A nice, slow (and safe) walking speed while carrying might be 2.5 mph, which is 24 minutes per mile. Your 1/2-walk at that speed also takes about 12 minutes. Sounds like a perfect fit.
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That's good to know. I ended up doing Overhead/Rack/Suitcase each side (starting with my strong arm before moving to the stronger) to fatigue, then switched. It seemed to roughly correspond with a 1/4 mile for each side. The suitcase ended up being the longer carry of all 3, but that was anticipated. The only problem I encountered was when I finished the 1/2 mile, set the bell down, and realized that I had to carry the thing home!! Let's just say there was a nap involved that day!!

I'll probably incorporate this into my off day routines, as it feels like a low burn compared Geoff Neupert's Strong/One routine that I'm doing right now. I suspect the strength/bulk will come with time.
 
MarkSch said:
Well, my current program -- Double KB Manifesto, 701 A -- stresses recovery a lot. It's a Double kettle complex program, 3 times a week.
Do you mean in a GTG fashion? I worry about messing up recovery with heavy deadlift work.
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I don't worry about that. I started with GTG every so often, and now I'm stronger so I can do them most days of the week.
 
schurgerdc said:
That's good to know. I ended up doing Overhead/Rack/Suitcase each side (starting with my strong arm before moving to the stronger) to fatigue, then switched. It seemed to roughly correspond with a 1/4 mile for each side. The suitcase ended up being the longer carry of all 3, but that was anticipated. The only problem I encountered was when I finished the 1/2 mile, set the bell down, and realized that I had to carry the thing home!! Let's just say there was a nap involved that day!!

I'll probably incorporate this into my off day routines, as it feels like a low burn compared Geoff Neupert's Strong/One routine that I'm doing right now. I suspect the strength/bulk will come with time.
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Something about these carries strikes me as them being a pretty complete workout in a lot of respects. The suitcase carries are pulls and the racks are pushes.
 
Bauer said:
What exactly do you mean by carrying on the lat?
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Yes to what everyone else has said.

Feel like, rather than trying to hold the weight up, you use your lat and that's where you feel the weight - not in your hand, or your elbow, or your shoulder, but in your lat, and carrying the weight helps you keep your shoulder packed.

-S-
 
I know this is the Kettlebell section, but why doesn’t anyone talk about heavy short distance carries. Like 85-95% of your DL for 20-30ft.
 
Geoff Chafe said:
I know this is the Kettlebell section, but why doesn’t anyone talk about heavy short distance carries. Like 85-95% of your DL for 20-30ft.
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I would like to, but I don't own 140kg in plates and a barbell.

I think heavy carries are best.
 
Commando said:
@Bauer you widen your lats - pushing them lateral
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Steve Freides said:
Yes to what everyone else has said.

Feel like, rather than trying to hold the weight up, you use your lat and that's where you feel the weight - not in your hand, or your elbow, or your shoulder, but in your lat, and carrying the weight helps you keep your shoulder packed.

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Wow, that is awesome! Pushing them lateral... somehow this cue works perfectly for me!
It's funny how cues work - down and back doesn't work for me and "fire the lats" (or whatever) doesn't work either.

It really feels different that way. Thank you.
 
If anyone knows a neat trick to easily carry 2 kb's in 1 hand that doesn't require big hands, please post it. (y)
 
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