PTTP Pro is not a continuation of the first book. I am going to take the liberty of quoting parts of the Introduction to PTTP Pro:Thanks @JonS . I don't have PTTP Professional, I did not know there was a second book on PTTP. I have the other one.
@Abdul, better to think, "this approach will work until it doesn't," IMHO. The only things that seems to work forever are PlanStrong programs, where the variety and randonness is part of the design in such a way that one can really do them for years, but you also have to realize you're almost never doing the same workout or the same week or the same month more than once.Since wave cycling BP or DL is not expected to stall
The book in question is on a sale for $12. I have put in a order. Even purposeful primitive is cheaper now($40-$16).PTTP Pro
The PTTP section in the SFL manual covers the failure to lift 5/2. We are supposed to take a day off, take 10-15% off and hit it again. That way we can stay on PTTP for a long time. If it is no longer working, we are to switch to 1-2-3 ladder program, and stay there as long as possible. Once that is not yielding results go back to PTTP and so and so forth. Phil Scarito mentioned he knew people (I think especially those starting out) staying this way for years (2 years so if I recall).this approach will work until it doesn't,
Thanks. The paperback is on its way.t $3 its a steal on Kindle. Lots of great stuff.
Can you report on any ab exercises you've done and how they are for you, e.g., kneeling wheel rollouts, hanging leg raises, hollow/tactical pullups?
Try it and see what you think. I generally don't feel like doing anything else after deadlifts, so I press first. Also PL meets go SQ, BP, DL so I prefer to practice them in that order most of the time.Is it alright to do DL first and then BP some times in PTTP?
If it were me (and I do plan to do some PTTP cycles in the future), this is the point at which I would "lock it in" and go back and re-start 10lb heavier than the last starting point. Basically nudge up your 80-85%RM. If you aren't peaking for a competition, why not spend almost all your time in the 65-80% range with only a few sessions (at the end) up to 85%?While doing several weeks of PTTP, I have realized that I am not able to handle the DL volume (which is two sets of five, four times a week) when the weight is above 80% of my 1RM.
My back feels really stressed, tried and tender after. And does not recover for the next 2-3 days. I suspect this has to do with my weak lower back. I always had problems with lower back pain in the past.
1) Would it be a sacrilege if I reduce the DL sessions to, 3 (or even 2) two sessions per week when the weight goes above 80% of my 1RM? ((BP does not bother me, and I will continue the same number sessions for it))
2) If it is not, I was thinking of doing some DL assistance exercises instead to address my weakness. Is this a bad idea (of course only if it does not aggravate my soreness) ?
3) If it is not, Does it make sense to replace a whole DL session with DL assistance exercises such as back extension or barbell rows?
Or should I look for a different program where the DL session is only once or twice a week.
Abdul, not being able to handle the usual volume at a higher weight is perfectly normal. If you can figure this out before you try to do too much for yourself, it's a great way to work up to a new peak - switch to lower volume via fewer reps in each set, and work your way up to a new PR triple, double, or single, then take some time off, then start a new cycle.While doing several weeks of PTTP, I have realized that I am not able to handle the DL volume (which is two sets of five, four times a week) when the weight is above 80% of my 1RM.
My back feels really stressed, tried and tender after. And does not recover for the next 2-3 days.
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1) Would it be a sacrilege if I reduce the DL sessions to, 3 (or even 2) two sessions per week when the weight goes above 80% of my 1RM?
While doing several weeks of PTTP, I have realized that I am not able to handle the DL volume (which is two sets of five, four times a week) when the weight is above 80% of my 1RM.
My back feels really stressed, tried and tender after. And does not recover for the next 2-3 days. I suspect this has to do with my weak lower back. I always had problems with lower back pain in the past.
1) Would it be a sacrilege if I reduce the DL sessions to, 3 (or even 2) sessions per week when the weight goes above 80% of my 1RM? ((BP does not bother me, and I will continue the same number sessions for it))
2) If it is not, I was thinking of doing some DL assistance exercises instead to address my weakness. Is this a bad idea (of course only if it does not aggravate my soreness) ?
3) If it is not, Does it make sense to replace a whole DL session with DL assistance exercises such as back extension or barbell rows?
Or should I look for a different program where the DL session is only once or twice a week.
If it were me (and I do plan to do some PTTP cycles in the future), this is the point at which I would "lock it in" and go back and re-start 10lb heavier than the last starting point. Basically nudge up your 80-85%RM. If you aren't peaking for a competition, why not spend almost all your time in the 65-80% range with only a few sessions (at the end) up to 85%?