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Other/Mixed Is Stretching Necessary?

Other strength modalities (e.g., Clubs), mixed strength modalities (e.g., combined kettlebell and barbell), other goals (flexibility)
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I stopped stretching and doing "classic" mobility work about a year ago. My mobility and stability has improved and became more consistent over that period. But that does not mean there is a cause and effects (no stretching -> better mobility). My main lift is the bent press, I do allot of OS work, sleep without a pillow, sit on the floor, I do loaded mobility (armbars, light getups, goblet squats), carries, crawling, some club work and finish practice sessions feeling stronger than I started.

So, is dedicated stretching necessary? Personally I don't think so. I think general joint alignment and health and mobility and control are a must. The specific tool used is, like any tool, depending on various things.

I just finished reading OS and it is interesting that they do not find it necessary to do stretching and mobility. Perhaps it has merit to it that if you only do OS then you might not need to stretch or mobilize joints.
 
I just finished reading OS and it is interesting that they do not find it necessary to do stretching and mobility. Perhaps it has merit to it that if you only do OS then you might not need to stretch or mobilize joints.

As a devoted OS practitioner and teacher, OS resets and strength work, like any other developmental approach, has built-in joint mobility work. Stretching gets in by encouraging relaxing what need to be relaxed. IMO what separates it from classical mobility and stretching is a more integrative approach.
 
From Pavel: 80/20 Powerlifting and How to Add 110+ Pounds to Your Lifts

Faleev stresses that you must wrap up each strength workout with static stretches. “The benefits of stretching are enormous. Stretching can increase your strength by 10%. It is a lot.” The man explains that “when you lift a weight your muscles contract. And after the workout the muscles remain contracted for some time. The following restoration of the muscles’ length is what recovery is. Until the muscle has restored its length, it has not recovered. Hence he who does not stretch his muscles slows down the recuperation process and retards his gains.” Besides, tension and relaxation are the two sides of the same coin, “if the muscle forgets how to lengthen, it will contract more poorly. And that is stagnation of strength.”​

I was just looking for reasons why Pavel included passive stretches in S+S (and not contract-relax) and I guess this quote explains it. Thanks!
 
I was just looking for reasons why Pavel included passive stretches in S+S (and not contract-relax) and I guess this quote explains it. Thanks!

Found this old thread I had missed. Lots of good information and I also found this quote especially informative.

S&S book recommends doing the stretches after training or later at night before going to bed. When something gives me trouble its my ql and maybe some other muscles on my sides and low back. Maybe its not a bad idea to do ql straddle 2-3 times a day. I guess there is no harm at least... ?
 
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