schurgerdc
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So here it is, my new quest for Timeless Simple!!! I'm hoping this is the right place for this question, b/c I feel it could be a thread in itself, but it directly pertains to S&S.
I recently started reading Q&D, and after 1/4 of the way thru, downloaded the updated S&S. Eye-opening, and worth it if you haven't done it already. For those who ask "can you do both" the answer is are you 1H the 32 for 100? If the answer is 'no' then re-read what I just said about buying the updated S&S!
Let's back up. I've been following S&S since it debuted around 2014-15 (it's a blur now), and I was able to get close to Timeless Simple in 2017, doing 100, 2H swings with the 32 & 10 TGU's. Pretty decent considering I was doing 2H due to an old right shoulder dislocation that was giving me grief. I hit that goal, and the next day got front-ended by a Jeep, which thru me & my training for a loop for 3-months. I lost strength, time & it took forever to get me to hold my atlas adjustment again (a pretty big deal for someone like myself!!). In the intervening time between then & now, I followed some programs from Geoff Neupert & others to build muscle. That's been eye-opening. All the while, I've kept S&S as my cardio, but not progressing past 24kg. If I did the 32, I'd be smoked, and always 2H. But having re-read S&S with the Q&D understanding, I see a new path for training...except I need help.
Couple of training items that I've been experimenting with. As I noted, doing 2H 32 swings smokes me. Even with more time between sets (I was doing around a minute) I perform the 2H with 32 best at 5 reps, then resting. That seems to leave some in the tank. While I got good at doing 2H with the 24 with 30-60s rests and not feeling smoked (days on end), doing 1H swings kills me for a day or two even with a longer rest. 16's don't give me enough feedback on 1H swings, so I'm trying 20, and that seems to be a sweet spot right now. I was able to do 10x10 this morning without trouble, including 5TGU's, 4-24, 1-32 (#3, 4 & it felt good). Right arm & neck feel ok, though the right hip was sore (glut med) after each right-handed set. That had me moving slow for the next couple of hours & I was ready for a nap until I ate 500g of beef heart. This post is a testament to my energy from meat, as I've been productive all afternoon since.
But back to my quandry...I've always felt like my arms are weak from an endurance standpoint. I understand they're supposed to be endurance muscles (so I could potentially carry back the aurochs that I apparently would thrive on). Something seems amiss with my arm endurance and would love some insights on how to retrain that.
I'm going to continue training 1H swings with the 20 for the next several weeks and maybe introduce a few sets of 24. I'm thinking on my deload/2H days to do low reps with the 32, slowly working that up to sets of 10 instead of 5's. TGU's will just progress back to the 32 per S&S. I appreciate the insights of everyone, and hope the training works properly to get me swinging the 32 1H by late Spring.
And yes, I'm going to eat the other 1/2 of that heart that I had at lunch for dinner. No weak bird meat for me ;-)
I recently started reading Q&D, and after 1/4 of the way thru, downloaded the updated S&S. Eye-opening, and worth it if you haven't done it already. For those who ask "can you do both" the answer is are you 1H the 32 for 100? If the answer is 'no' then re-read what I just said about buying the updated S&S!
Let's back up. I've been following S&S since it debuted around 2014-15 (it's a blur now), and I was able to get close to Timeless Simple in 2017, doing 100, 2H swings with the 32 & 10 TGU's. Pretty decent considering I was doing 2H due to an old right shoulder dislocation that was giving me grief. I hit that goal, and the next day got front-ended by a Jeep, which thru me & my training for a loop for 3-months. I lost strength, time & it took forever to get me to hold my atlas adjustment again (a pretty big deal for someone like myself!!). In the intervening time between then & now, I followed some programs from Geoff Neupert & others to build muscle. That's been eye-opening. All the while, I've kept S&S as my cardio, but not progressing past 24kg. If I did the 32, I'd be smoked, and always 2H. But having re-read S&S with the Q&D understanding, I see a new path for training...except I need help.
Couple of training items that I've been experimenting with. As I noted, doing 2H 32 swings smokes me. Even with more time between sets (I was doing around a minute) I perform the 2H with 32 best at 5 reps, then resting. That seems to leave some in the tank. While I got good at doing 2H with the 24 with 30-60s rests and not feeling smoked (days on end), doing 1H swings kills me for a day or two even with a longer rest. 16's don't give me enough feedback on 1H swings, so I'm trying 20, and that seems to be a sweet spot right now. I was able to do 10x10 this morning without trouble, including 5TGU's, 4-24, 1-32 (#3, 4 & it felt good). Right arm & neck feel ok, though the right hip was sore (glut med) after each right-handed set. That had me moving slow for the next couple of hours & I was ready for a nap until I ate 500g of beef heart. This post is a testament to my energy from meat, as I've been productive all afternoon since.
But back to my quandry...I've always felt like my arms are weak from an endurance standpoint. I understand they're supposed to be endurance muscles (so I could potentially carry back the aurochs that I apparently would thrive on). Something seems amiss with my arm endurance and would love some insights on how to retrain that.
I'm going to continue training 1H swings with the 20 for the next several weeks and maybe introduce a few sets of 24. I'm thinking on my deload/2H days to do low reps with the 32, slowly working that up to sets of 10 instead of 5's. TGU's will just progress back to the 32 per S&S. I appreciate the insights of everyone, and hope the training works properly to get me swinging the 32 1H by late Spring.
And yes, I'm going to eat the other 1/2 of that heart that I had at lunch for dinner. No weak bird meat for me ;-)