Epictetus554
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Hello Everybody,
I wanted to get a discussion started on calisthenics and weights. Now, I understand that it's fully possible to have the best of both worlds and just to do both modalities. My main reason for training is longevity and health. In the long run, how do these two modalities match up in terms of longevity.
I have worries that lifting heavy weights, even with perfect form may produce micro traumas long term. Injuries that aren't really apparent until later in life. I also have concerns of the ballistic nature of many lifts, namely the kettlebell snatch. I've read warnings from people like Steve Maxwell who have had shoulder issues from the kettlebell snatch. In a podcast Steve also mentioned that DC Maxwell's hip replacements, may have been a result of her focus on kettlebell movements. I have also noticed allot of kettlebell pioneers, namely Dan John and Mark Reifkind, who both have had replacement surgeries. If I'm not mistaken Geoff Neupert stepped away from lifting for an extended period of time to focus on Original Strength resets. I really don't know if this is from kettlebells or previous mileage. This worries me as I want to age gracefully and without joint replacements/pain. It seems to me that many weight lifters seem to gravitate towards calisthenics as they age. I see it all the time at the local park I exercise at, allot of former lifters are now doing basic calisthenics and walking. They have a use to/back in the day way of speaking about the gym. I feel as though calisthenics should be a main course with deadlifts and loaded carries as the spice.
I wanted to get a discussion started on calisthenics and weights. Now, I understand that it's fully possible to have the best of both worlds and just to do both modalities. My main reason for training is longevity and health. In the long run, how do these two modalities match up in terms of longevity.
I have worries that lifting heavy weights, even with perfect form may produce micro traumas long term. Injuries that aren't really apparent until later in life. I also have concerns of the ballistic nature of many lifts, namely the kettlebell snatch. I've read warnings from people like Steve Maxwell who have had shoulder issues from the kettlebell snatch. In a podcast Steve also mentioned that DC Maxwell's hip replacements, may have been a result of her focus on kettlebell movements. I have also noticed allot of kettlebell pioneers, namely Dan John and Mark Reifkind, who both have had replacement surgeries. If I'm not mistaken Geoff Neupert stepped away from lifting for an extended period of time to focus on Original Strength resets. I really don't know if this is from kettlebells or previous mileage. This worries me as I want to age gracefully and without joint replacements/pain. It seems to me that many weight lifters seem to gravitate towards calisthenics as they age. I see it all the time at the local park I exercise at, allot of former lifters are now doing basic calisthenics and walking. They have a use to/back in the day way of speaking about the gym. I feel as though calisthenics should be a main course with deadlifts and loaded carries as the spice.
- It makes sense to me that slow and controlled movements would be the safest for just about anyone who isn't an athlete?
- What's the benefits of ballistic movements for the lay person? Would it help them carry groceries better?
- How strong does someone need to really be to live a long and healthy life?
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