I think you would have a strong core but would still benefit from hollow body work and leg raises.Say you can do TGUs with the beast, by definition, do you have a strong core? Or might there be gaps to fill with other exercises? If so, what would those exercises be?
Apologies, I know this is a somewhat inane question!
Bret Contreras did an interesting case study with a lot of exercises way back in 2010. Of course, it might differ due to technique and weight used - but the TGU stood out as a great allrounder (even with 50lb).Say you can do TGUs with the beast, by definition, do you have a strong core? Or might there be gaps to fill with other exercises? If so, what would those exercises be?
Apologies, I know this is a somewhat inane question!
Based on the results of this experiment, I bet the following would be one kick-a#@ workout that'd target the abdominals, obliques, and lower back. Enjoy!
* Turkish Get Up
* Chin Up, Hanging Leg Raise, or Weighted Swiss Ball Crunch
* Ab Wheel Rollout, Bodysaw, or RKC Plank
* Kneeling Cable Lift, Tornado Ball Slam, Landmine, or Reverse Hyper
I worked up to that level about ten years ago (then went on to a 56 kg sandbag balanced on my palm) - although it was mostly about technique for me, since I could do TGUs with a 50 kg dumbbell pretty much right away. For me personally, it didn't do much in terms of core strength, I got a lot more core activation from AB wheel rollouts. I'd recommend those and at least one variation of hanging leg raises (including one-arm, pull-ups and rope climbing in L-sit) in addition.Say you can do TGUs with the beast, by definition, do you have a strong core? Or might there be gaps to fill with other exercises? If so, what would those exercises be?
Apologies, I know this is a somewhat inane question!
Strict hanging leg raises were a WTH effect of reaching just Simple for me. They have my vote.
Hello,
In all cases, core goal is to stabilize the spine in all directions. This is why it is usually advised to work on anti extension, anti rotation, anti flexion, anti lateral flexion.
For each of these "categories", one may use both static (exp: plank) and dynamic moves (exp: V-Ups).
Then it all comes down to the sport we perfom. There is little but no "twist" involved in weightlifting. However, there is in combat sport. Curling motion is also not involved in weight lifting. However, it is in combat sport.
TGU is a nice "blend", but it has to be paired with other moves (anti extension, such as in swings) and HLR (flexion)
Kind regards,
Pet'
Exactly. Slow, strict HLR, one arm pushup & easy, full ROM pistol were only possible for me when I was owning Simple. Not before or since & Ive never focused on training any of them. Pullups became effortless though Ive always worked them.Do you mean you couldn't do it, then trained to Simple (without training leg raises of any kind), and then you reached Simple, tried again, and were able to do a strict HLR?
This doesn't compute, to me. Doing Simple, or even Sinister, didn't get me to even a decent L-sit -- let alone a HLR! But where I've always been decent with abdominal bracing (for heavy lifting), I've never been good at abdominal contraction for something like a HLR. I'd like to blame my two abdominal surgeries but it's probably just that I've never trained it enough.
Anyway, I'd like to hear more about what you mean by "strict hanging leg raises were a WTH effect of reaching just Simple for me". Do you mean you couldn't do it, then trained to Simple (without training leg raises of any kind), and then you reached Simple, tried again, and were able to do a strict HLR?
I would agree that it was easier to focus on during the deadlift. The getup absolutely involves the core and abs. But I'm very distracted by several other things throughout the movement.For me, the easiest way to acquiring a strong core was and is the barbell deadlift
IMHO, this is something very interesting. DBs involve some sort of anti-extension and anti-twist. 1/4 TGUs involve twisting and curling. This is a perfect combination of static, dynamic and "3D" work. I like it !I've been doing a lot of 1/4 getups and dead bugs