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Kettlebell "Giant 1.0"

Sean M said:
Rep-max test after 1.0:


2x20kg from barely 10 to 14 (probably 15)
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Great man! The Giant truly is a great program that will give you results. Just a little tip that was a game changer for me (you might be doing it already) learning to truly “breathe behind the shield” while doing any strength movement is makes a difference in how much tension one can produce under a load. Nasal breathing behind core tension, then releasing it at the right time (for each movement) really helps as one progresses. Not trying to critique just something I noticed that someone once brought up to me that helped a lot. Keep pressing!
 
I have two quick questions.
1. Geoff said to do one run through the program with presses (strength) and one run through with push presses (explosive). One run through is twenty weeks. If I remember correctly one attribute starts to diminish after a couple weeks. Is there just enough carryover to pretty much keep the gains of one while working on the other?

2. I was thinking of dusting of the old rowing machine to get a little sweat on in the morning. Is it a try it and see if it'll be too much scenario?
 
HUNTER1313 said:
I have two quick questions.
1. Geoff said to do one run through the program with presses (strength) and one run through with push presses (explosive). One run through is twenty weeks. If I remember correctly one attribute starts to diminish after a couple weeks. Is there just enough carryover to pretty much keep the gains of one while working on the other?

2. I was thinking of dusting of the old rowing machine to get a little sweat on in the morning. Is it a try it and see if it'll be too much scenario?
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For #2, I did some rowing on off days. Either 20 minutes of minute on/off (“on” was 8/10 speed and power, off was light and slow), A+A style of light and easy punctuated with 5 hard pulls every 75-90 seconds, or 3-4 all-out 15-20 second sprints within 4-5 minutes of easy.
 
I'm still planning on finishing the giant until 1.2. had to interrupt 1.1 because of illness (not long, like 10 days) and now I'm re doing 1.1 and still I've had to stop for a few days.
I feel like I've been sick since November: flu vaccine, out (from working out) for 2-3 days.
then virus. cough, low grade fever out 5 days, didn't miss work.
then another f****** virus, different symptoms with shortness of breath, different cough, higher grade fever, lost 3kg of weight that week. out around 8 or 9 days mostly because shortness of breath, had to miss work 3 days aprox.
THEN 3rd covid shot last week, fever and joint pain. out 5-6 days mostly because of joint pain, missed 2 days of work because the joint pain was too intense (all joints but mostly shoulders, knees and elbows. the pain the first 2 days woke me up after changing positions while sleeping wtf)

sorry for the rant, I've been feeling like s*** for weeks

I've noticed I stick better to programs when they're simpler. Too many hours and too much stress at work. it's better for me to not think about it and just work out and be able to just concentrate on a few exercises

now my question:

is it healthy to do clean & press all year long?
not saying doing the giant numbers or RoP all year, but yes go to another program with C&P (like total body blast or dry, fighting weight)
 
When things get hairy for me, the double clean and press constitutes my baseline. This is the tree off of which I hang all of my other strength, conditioning, and sports pursuits. When the time comes to pare back, the clean and press is the last thing to go.

I would also recommend checking out Kettlebell Strong!. What I like about KB Strong! is that it holds me back from overdoing things. It's like using a metronome to hone your technique with a musical instrument. The technical instruction is worth well more than the sale price of the product.

That said, I suspect that The Giant will be my bridge to double 28s after I finish my run of Strong! with double 24s. I had good results the last time I ran through The Giant 1.0 through 1.2 with a pair of 20s.

I think that The Giant and KB Strong! are very well complimented to one another. I think that either of these programs can make a great baseline program.

And also, let's be honest: it's fun to move a heavy weight from the floor to over my head.
 
I found another 24kg online for a reasonable price, and snapped it up on the spur of the moment, with the idea of eventually getting the Giant. Then after I bought the bell I thought, just get it now hahah. I have just started getting the hang of C&P and love it, so this should work well. I do want to finish timeless Simple first, just to finish it, and because I like it a lot, but will then move to the Giant. First single kb, then double.
 
pood_swinger said:
I'm still planning on finishing the giant until 1.2. had to interrupt 1.1 because of illness (not long, like 10 days) and now I'm re doing 1.1 and still I've had to stop for a few days.
I feel like I've been sick since November: flu vaccine, out (from working out) for 2-3 days.
then virus. cough, low grade fever out 5 days, didn't miss work.
then another f****** virus, different symptoms with shortness of breath, different cough, higher grade fever, lost 3kg of weight that week. out around 8 or 9 days mostly because shortness of breath, had to miss work 3 days aprox.
THEN 3rd covid shot last week, fever and joint pain. out 5-6 days mostly because of joint pain, missed 2 days of work because the joint pain was too intense (all joints but mostly shoulders, knees and elbows. the pain the first 2 days woke me up after changing positions while sleeping wtf)

sorry for the rant, I've been feeling like s*** for weeks

I've noticed I stick better to programs when they're simpler. Too many hours and too much stress at work. it's better for me to not think about it and just work out and be able to just concentrate on a few exercises

now my question:

is it healthy to do clean & press all year long?
not saying doing the giant numbers or RoP all year, but yes go to another program with C&P (like total body blast or dry, fighting weight)
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Ha, I feel you. Same here for me. After 14 months of steady progress the last 2 months have been rough, health-wise. Just a couple of weeks before I wanted to attack Timed Simple and then test my progress on other moves. I have now switched to a more A+A style of programming as I feel this is a bit easier on my immune system than higher rep sets.

I can't answer your question from experience, but I would say: If you stay healthy, it is healthy to do C+P all year long. Same but different would probably be good guidance, though. And keep your mobility in check (keep your ability to squat etc., maybe do some yoga here and there).
 
pood_swinger said:
I'm still planning on finishing the giant until 1.2. had to interrupt 1.1 because of illness (not long, like 10 days) and now I'm re doing 1.1 and still I've had to stop for a few days.
I feel like I've been sick since November: flu vaccine, out (from working out) for 2-3 days.
then virus. cough, low grade fever out 5 days, didn't miss work.
then another f****** virus, different symptoms with shortness of breath, different cough, higher grade fever, lost 3kg of weight that week. out around 8 or 9 days mostly because shortness of breath, had to miss work 3 days aprox.
THEN 3rd covid shot last week, fever and joint pain. out 5-6 days mostly because of joint pain, missed 2 days of work because the joint pain was too intense (all joints but mostly shoulders, knees and elbows. the pain the first 2 days woke me up after changing positions while sleeping wtf)

sorry for the rant, I've been feeling like s*** for weeks

I've noticed I stick better to programs when they're simpler. Too many hours and too much stress at work. it's better for me to not think about it and just work out and be able to just concentrate on a few exercises

now my question:

is it healthy to do clean & press all year long?
not saying doing the giant numbers or RoP all year, but yes go to another program with C&P (like total body blast or dry, fighting weight)
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As someone currently with covid I find paracetamol is a god send.

As to c&p year round I find my upper spine & neck gets cranky so it can be good switching out at some point.
 
I just ran the “heavy day” of the Giant 3.0 with a single 32kg as a test today to see what to expect. I’m gonna begin the run next week. I initially thought I could do it with a 36 but that’s not reality. I love the extra time under tension, I expect my core to get more of a workout than with doubles due to fact the the TUT is double. I enjoyed it very much and also like the extra cardio from it.
 
I just finished week 1 of the giant. Really enjoy the program so far. Geoff advised me to stick to giant 1 and 3 to keep lactic acid down. Those 6 rep sets really seem to be the max i can do without feeling bad, seems perfect . Its almost as if geoff knew exactly what he was talking about!
A+ so far.
 
I just did week 3s lower volume Friday workout with a twist. Last week I did the day 3 workout with a heavier set of bells by accident. This week I did the same thing again but it wasn't an accident. I like this little twist, it adds to the challenge. I don't know if I'll do it the 1.1 but we'll see.

Many ways to do this program.
 
John Grahill said:
I just did week 3s lower volume Friday workout with a twist. Last week I did the day 3 workout with a heavier set of bells by accident. This week I did the same thing again but it wasn't an accident. I like this little twist, it adds to the challenge. I don't know if I'll do it the 1.1 but we'll see.

Many ways to do this program.
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I had thought about doing something similar, but ended up not. Nice to see it worked.
 
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