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Kettlebell Which GN program gave you the most results?

Which RMF are you running, I think there are multiple versions. Either way 32kgs is beastly. I attempted to do the 12 week version, using 3 days a week of 30 minutes a session with 28kg bells a few years ago, and after 6 weeks my body just shut down.

I wasn’t as good at auto regulation back then and simply pushed too hard, i think 20 kgs might be my long cycle bells these days.

I saw rmf advertised again recently with some new plans, and im wondering if it’s slightly less brutal than the original version
Not Geoff but I'll take this one for him.

The newer version has a beginner version which, IMO, is great if you're still building up your technique or wanna run a new cycle of RMF with a heavier pair of bells and build momentum leading into the original version
 
So many great programs by Geoff Neupert. I really liked the Giant programs. I'm guilty of program hopping but the Giant kept me on the program, because I both liked the sessions as wel as the results.
I really like to do STRONG but I don't have a 3-5rm pair.
For now I want to lean out a bit. On one hand I was thinking of alternating the Giant and KSK (either in blocks or ABA BAB style), but on the other hand I don't want to butcher the original intent for the programs. I also have RMF. I was thinking of doing either KSK or RMF for the coming weeks to get leaner and after that buy a 2nd bell for a 3-5rm pair and start STRONG.
In what program did you have better results for getting leaner? KSK or RMF?
I have Had basically the same results with all. Stronger. Leaner. Maybe obviously stronger from the giant than stronger from snatches. But same outcomes. Leaner. Conditioned. Stronger. Etc
 
Which RMF are you running, I think there are multiple versions. Either way 32kgs is beastly. I attempted to do the 12 week version, using 3 days a week of 30 minutes a session with 28kg bells a few years ago, and after 6 weeks my body just shut down.

I wasn’t as good at auto regulation back then and simply pushed too hard, i think 20 kgs might be my long cycle bells these days.

I saw rmf advertised again recently with some new plans, and im wondering if it’s slightly less brutal than the original version
I’m doing the beginner one because I’m using heavy weight.
 
I had a great run through KB Burn Extreme, it was a brutally unpleasant 4 weeks and I dropped 17 pounds. It took me a few weeks to recover, tbh.

I did Easy Muscle A in the fall and really enjoyed that. I just did 20 minute sessions with Dip Finishers and saw distinct growth in my upper arm and pecs.

I was just going through Maximorum for 8 weeks, really liked it and it was right on the line of how much volume I could handle. Loved the 4x/wk with 2 different days, I prefer it to a single 3x/wk program.
 
I have done one iteration of all of the following

- KB Strong with 2x24s, and stopped 2x28s midway (slow and steady version - stopped as I had to prep for my SFG) .... started Ph1 with 2x32s and almost reached the end but had to stop due to injury .. never took the program to its completion, but with all this talk I am wondering if I should do the KB Strong program to its completion, i.e. reducing rest times after reaching end-state.
- Giant 1.0 with 2x20s
- You don't know squat with 2x24s
- Long Cycle of death with single 24
- Started KB Maximum with 32 but stopped it midway due to an injury
- Swing strong 1.0 with 32kg 1h swings >> built my engine up for my snatch test
 
I have used numerous programs from Geoff and have enjoyed success in all I have tried. The most "resuts" is a toss up between "Strong" or the "Giant" series. I'm thinking that of the two the Giant may have been more "results producing" in that I did multiple higher rep sets with challenging weights which gave me a thumping heart beat and a sick pump! I was able to keep my weight in check and gain strength with little effort outside of my training. By this I mean I could be a little more liberal with my diet and still managed to drop "pudge" and get stronger. It gave me visible results too, with friends adding that I "must be lifting again" and other comments to that effect.
 
The giant + some of his newsletter program suggestions because it changed the way I exercise. I started using density type programming for most workouts and started using double KB as my standard, except snatches.
 
I have done one iteration of all of the following

- KB Strong with 2x24s, and stopped 2x28s midway (slow and steady version - stopped as I had to prep for my SFG) .... started Ph1 with 2x32s and almost reached the end but had to stop due to injury .. never took the program to its completion, but with all this talk I am wondering if I should do the KB Strong program to its completion, i.e. reducing rest times after reaching end-state.
- Giant 1.0 with 2x20s
- You don't know squat with 2x24s
- Long Cycle of death with single 24
- Started KB Maximum with 32 but stopped it midway due to an injury
- Swing strong 1.0 with 32kg 1h swings >> built my engine up for my snatch test
How’d you like LCOD w the 24? Pros/cons/results?
 
I have done Kettlebell Burn 2.0, Kettlebell Burn Extreme, and Strong! (all 3 phases)

I am currently participating in the beta test for Giant X. I have completed the X1 and X2 phases. I'm in the 2nd Week of the X3 phase.

I really love all of Neupert's programming and have gotten good results.

If I had to choose one I would say Strong. I could feel myself getting stronger as I progressed through the phases of the program. I also got a good conditioning bump from being disciplined about reducing the rest time between sets as I progressed.

Though....
The Giant X is bad a#@!!
 
I have done one iteration of all of the following

- KB Strong with 2x24s, and stopped 2x28s midway (slow and steady version - stopped as I had to prep for my SFG) .... started Ph1 with 2x32s and almost reached the end but had to stop due to injury .. never took the program to its completion, but with all this talk I am wondering if I should do the KB Strong program to its completion, i.e. reducing rest times after reaching end-state.
- Giant 1.0 with 2x20s
- You don't know squat with 2x24s
- Long Cycle of death with single 24
- Started KB Maximum with 32 but stopped it midway due to an injury
- Swing strong 1.0 with 32kg 1h swings >> built my engine up for my snatch test
Man a lot of this sounds like me. I started RMF once and had to stop because my back injury from Jiu Jitsu. Then one time had to stop KSK because my shoulder. I’m back on RMF. So far so good. I want To do long cycle of death with double 24kg and eventually dry fighting weight.
 
I have used numerous programs from Geoff and have enjoyed success in all I have tried. The most "resuts" is a toss up between "Strong" or the "Giant" series. I'm thinking that of the two the Giant may have been more "results producing" in that I did multiple higher rep sets with challenging weights which gave me a thumping heart beat and a sick pump! I was able to keep my weight in check and gain strength with little effort outside of my training. By this I mean I could be a little more liberal with my diet and still managed to drop "pudge" and get stronger. It gave me visible results too, with friends adding that I "must be lifting again" and other comments to that effect.
Yea man the giant is super legit. Gonna run it back again in the future.
 
I have done Kettlebell Burn 2.0, Kettlebell Burn Extreme, and Strong! (all 3 phases)

I am currently participating in the beta test for Giant X. I have completed the X1 and X2 phases. I'm in the 2nd Week of the X3 phase.

I really love all of Neupert's programming and have gotten good results.

If I had to choose one I would say Strong. I could feel myself getting stronger as I progressed through the phases of the program. I also got a good conditioning bump from being disciplined about reducing the rest time between sets as I progressed.

Though....
The Giant X is bad a#@!!
Oh snap a new giant program!?!?
 
Oh snap a new giant program!?!?
Yep! It is called Giant X. Giant X is three different 8 week programs---X1, X2, X3. Each program has different rep schemes and/or different lifts. The primary lift is Double Clean and Press.

As I stated above, I have finished X1 and X2. Today, I finished Week 2 of X3. It is a fantastic program. I am completely enjoying it.
 
Yep! It is called Giant X. Giant X is three different 8 week programs---X1, X2, X3. Each program has different rep schemes and/or different lifts. The primary lift is Double Clean and Press.

As I stated above, I have finished X1 and X2. Today, I finished Week 2 of X3. It is a fantastic program. I am completely enjoying it.
Amazing! GN coaches me! And he’s kept this one silent! Haha. What benefits are you noticing from it?
 
I posted this in the Giant X and Maximorum thread when I finished X2:

I really like the Giant X program. I have now run both X1 and X2 with 2x24k bells. I really enjoyed X2. The Double Push Press and the See Saw Press were some nice variety for me. Especially since I started the Giant X a week after completing all 3 phases of Strong! with 2x24k bells.

I got better about auto-regulation during X2. I feel like I have a better understanding of how to do it effectively.

I plan to begin X3 tomorrow with 2x24k bells. At the end of X3, I will have spent a little over a year with 2x24k bells. This is significant because until last year, I had no desire to ever attempt a doubles program. After I complete X3, I plan to run Kettle Burn Extreme again so I can continue to lean out.

Here are my results from Giant X to date:
I am a 55 year old male. 30 minute sets. Bells: 2x24k

End of X2 Rep Max Test--3/5/23:
2x28k: 8 Reps

I am a disappointed with this Rep Max. I expected to get a least 10 reps with the 28k bells. I am not sure why I failed to equal my rep test from the end of X1. I think one factor was my stance was too narrow and I had bell hits during the hinge portion of the DC&P. I think that the controlling of the bells caused me to spend some energy that would have gone into the press. I have also had a head cold this week. So I am not 100%. Though, I have to keep things in perspective. I am getting stronger with each session. Before starting The Giant X I would not have been able to get 8 reps with the 2x28k bells.

End of X1 Rep Max Test--1/8/23:
Rep Max Test:

2x28k: 9 Reps
2x32k: 1.5 Rep
2x24k: 12 Reps

Giant X Body Measurements:
I am VERY pleased with my results with my body comp after running two phases of The Giant X. When I ran X1, my diet was terrible. I enjoyed the holidays and any other reason to overeat and have a few beers. I got my diet dialed in for X2 and get some really great results.

Beginning X3--3/5/23:
Weight: 231 lbs (-17 lbs since 1.8.23 & -11 lbs since 11.14.22)
Neck: 17.17 (-1.8 since 1.8.23 & .83 since 11.14.22)
Chest: 45.80 (-1.7 since 1.8.23 & 11.14.22 chest was the same for both measurements)
Waist: 47.57 (-2.43 since 1.8.23 & -1.93 since 11.14.22)

Beginning X2--1/8/23:
Weight: 248 lbs (+6 lbs)
Neck: 18.25 (+.25)
Chest: 47.5 (no change)
Waist: 50 (+.5)

Beginning X1--11/14/22:
Weight: 242 lbs
Neck: 18
Chest 47.5
Waist: 49.5
 
I am currently running Strong and nearly done with Phase 2 with 2x24kg. I want to ideally build muscle mass but appreciate I need to get strong first to achieve this. If I get my 2x24kg to my 10RM do you think the Giant will achieve the desired hypertrophy goals?
 
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