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LouisGordon

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I would take that most coaches here gets asked by clients what about the food?

Is Warrior Diet form the past still a thing?

How is diet being offered and suggested or do not do it?

This leads to, is there a certification you suggest? And bonus questions in here, since I am mentioning certifications, what do you have for your base personal trainer? I had NASM and I am considering renewing it but I have also looked in to NFPT due to price.
 
There is a nutrition section on the site over by the workout logs. Lots of good discussions over there. Including a few updates on the science of IF. In short, pretty much all measurable benefits are from caloric restriction. It’s a great tool, but does have risks of increasing likelihood of developing disordered eating. Especially in some populations such as young women. Something like 70% in one study. So not for everyone)

Personally I still like the precision nutrition certification. I like even more the trend of referring those questions to a specialist. It’s a surprisingly complicated field around a simple concept.

Hope that helps (don’t want to s*** on your idea, just sharing my personal view that may not be worth anything for you)
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This is helpful. No worries. I did not notice that forum until you mentioned it, thank you. I just came back to the forums and these are new verse the old format from my previous time.

IF seems all the rage.

I do have PN level 1 already.
Yeah the new format kind of hides some sections.

Good luck with your certs!
 
Base personal training certs:
NSCA (CPT or CSCS—I have CSCS)
ACE
ACSM (more exercise phys based)
There are many, many others but these would be top three IMO.

Nutrition:
If you have PN 1 then you already have great info to work from.

I "don't touch" nutrition typically—in most states you need to be an RN to give a specific diet/plan.
Otherwise it is general recommendations—lean meats, veggies, "good carbs", hydrate etc.

Michael Pollan in Food Rules (or In Defense of Food) laid it out very simply—eat foot, mostly plants, not as much, and cook.
Not the exact formula I would use but a good simple guide.

Keeping a food diary for a short time is typically all people need to start spotting the "big rocks" to change.
 
I would take that most coaches here gets asked by clients what about the food?

Is Warrior Diet form the past still a thing?

How is diet being offered and suggested or do not do it?

This leads to, is there a certification you suggest? And bonus questions in here, since I am mentioning certifications, what do you have for your base personal trainer? I had NASM and I am considering renewing it but I have also looked in to NFPT due to price.
Yes the Warrior Diet is still a thing. Ori came out with 'The 7 Principles of Stress' which is his most updated view points on Intermittent Fasting and how to eat for longevity. If you have any specific questions about it - let me know. I have an ongoing dialogue with Ori Hofmekler and have delved deep into his philosophy through paid consultations and occasional emails/phone calls.
 
I always found that the Warrior Diet was too focused on supplements. I also found it too restrictive in terms of "how" to eat, in what order etc. Didn't fit well with a family meal. I'd have a hard time selling that way of eating to anyone.

That being said I love IF in all it's forms, just not how it's presented in the Warrior Diet.
 
Nutrition is such a wide open discussion. Because we all have such different needs, food sensitivities, and preferences. My favorite book on nutrition is an old one and it’s called nutrition and degeneration by Westin price. Some people refute his work but it’s pretty damn clear to me that not eating processed food is the most important decision you can make. He was preaching the dangers of oxidized seed oils and processed cane sugar in the 30s. The healthiest and most physically impressive of all the tribes he studied all had access to lots of meat or plenty of seafood. One or the other. They were jacked and didn’t have any weight lifting ️‍♀️ protocols lol
 
Said it before & I’ll say it again.
Seafood diet- I see food I eat it.
The trouble starts when you define food. There’s many things I don’t class as food.
I keep things very basic, avoid as much processing & packaging as possible.
I don’t follow any specific diet. I eat whatever food falls into my lap as long as it’s real food.
I work hard, I train hard, I eat hard.
I might be ignorant or I might be lucky I don’t know. But I grew up with home cooked meals & a lot of grown food. If not grown by my family then grown by someone in the area. No one I know around here talks about diet, we just eat. We’re blessed with food being fuel not a vice. If some legend made it tasty that’s a bonus.Work hard eat more, work less eat less.
I think I was blessed by a country life surrounded by real food. When I moved to the city for awhile I just took the same mentality with me. To me it’s simple. I don’t care about protein, carbs, fats, portions etc. If I’m hungry I eat. I think if you stick to real food you don’t need fancy diets, unless of course there’s allergy or intolerance issues.
Warrior diet, carnivore diet, paleo, intermittent fasting…….
Just eat real food, chill.
Sorry for the rant. I was going to keep preaching but couldn’t see an end.
As I said I’m either ignorant or blessed I don’t know. But the nutrition/diet dilemma I don’t understand. There’s so many other things in peoples lives that are complicated why add another.
Country Bumpkin out.
 
:eek:I have discovered this very old & hidden knowledge of diet called "the 4 food groups". In this complicated system from the past one eats a "balanced diet" from 4 groupings of food: meat/fish/eggs, fruits/veggies, bread/cereals, milk/dairy. This ancient secret knowledge was destroyed when the old world transitioned to the complete nonsense we have today. o_O
 
:eek:I have discovered this very old & hidden knowledge of diet called "the 4 food groups". In this complicated system from the past one eats a "balanced diet" from 4 groupings of food: meat/fish/eggs, fruits/veggies, bread/cereals, milk/dairy. This ancient secret knowledge was destroyed when the old world transitioned to the complete nonsense we have today. o_O
I've watched my mother for years play games with fad diets, drink diet soda, join Noom, Weight Watchers...etc.
If you exercise and eat real food like DC says, that is all you need. And junk food is obvious. If its crunchy and comes in a bag, or is covered in powdered sugar, maybe don't eat too much of it.
 
Listen to any nutritionist for 10 minutes and they can convince you their diet is the only sensible, scientifically sound way to eat.

I'll never forget Pavel saying on JRE that he's "an enemy of nutrition." I couldn't agree more. It's such a frustrating subject.

My totally unqualified opinion (beyond having dealt with some significant food "sensitivities" for years): try different dietary approaches until you find one that makes you feel great every day. Then keep eating that way.
 
I think the abundance & access to “food” maybe a problem today. Here in Australia the cost of living has increased dramatically over the last few years. There’s a narrative atm that some people are struggling to put food on the table. I’ve met some of these people, they’re kids have multiple gaming consoles, every member of the family has a phone, they pay for multiple streaming services, eat takeout 5/6 nights of the week.
I grew up country but it wasn’t a farm. It was government housing in the poorest part of town. Every house had a vege garden, some had chickens not because it was on trend or cool, but as a necessity. We were dirt poor but still ate better than the average person today. We’re surrounded by easily accessible rubbish “food” today. I feel sorry for this generation. The poor buggers have rubbish food, rubbish opinions, rubbish values at their fingertips. Rubbish food will arrive at your doorstep with a touch of a button.
Anyway got worked up again with a back in my day old man rant. I do feel sorry for current generations that didn’t get to experience life before internet. Yes it’s an amazing interactive world we now live in.
But… damn life was way more easier when choices were few & options were less.
What’s for dinner tonight?
Dunno what’s in the garden? Did you collect the eggs?
 
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This leads to, is there a certification you suggest? And bonus questions in here, since I am mentioning certifications, what do you have for your base personal trainer? I had NASM and I am considering renewing it but I have also looked in to NFPT due to price.

The Big 5 Persoal Training Certifications

These the most credible Personal Training Certification.

The majority of Health Clubs and Gym recognize and and hire individual with one of these Personal Training Certification.

In no particular order.

1) National Strength and Conditioning Association

My certification is a CSCS withthe NSCA.

2) American College of Sports Medicine

3) National Academy of Sports Medicine

4) American Council on Exercise

5) International Sports Science Association


My Suggestion

Renew your NASM Certification.
 
I do not have it myself but I know the materials well - Precision Nutrition. I would say any trainer who wants a little extra knowledge should take this course re: nutrition. It doesn't make you an expert (nor should it, there are RD's for that) but it gives really good info with an extreme focus on health behaviour change, which will help your exercise coaching as well.
 
I expect the approval and availability of GLP-1 to treat obesity is going to radically change the nutrition advice space.

Peter Attia was discussing how he has been getting asked for GLP-1 prescriptions now from people who are clearly not obese and very fit, but they want to look good for the beach during spring break.
 
@watchnerd GLP's will be a game changer, no doubt. But I do not think it will change the lifestyle space. As with any other drug, combination of medication and lifestyle (diet, exercise, sleep, stress, emotional health) are going to matter.

Regarding the last part... just seems ridiculous. No doc should prescribe that
 
I expect the approval and availability of GLP-1 to treat obesity is going to radically change the nutrition advice space.
Which is weird because it works because it basically blunts the biology that prevents long term adherence to lifestyle changes. The changes still need to happen to get results.

Or do you mean there will be less demand for magic berries and green tea extract that some charlatans make their money and name on?
 
Which is weird because it works because it basically blunts the biology that prevents long term adherence to lifestyle changes. The changes still need to happen to get results.

Or do you mean there will be less demand for magic berries and green tea extract that some charlatans make their money and name on?

I mean I was trying to be a bit oblique and diplomatic about the snake oil sellers.

But yeah.
 
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