I will be taking several polls here, looking at whether we think we might have numbers that represent the equivalent of "Simple" and "Sinister" for the barbell deadlift, performed according to Raw powerlifting rules - a belt is allowed but no other supportive gear or clothing.
No science claimed here - I am going by my gut in suggesting around 500 lbs., and that includes my recollection of Pavel and others mentioning this as a serious amount of weight to deadlift for an average size adult male. It represent over 2.5 times bodyweight for a 180 lb. man, and exactly 2.5 times bodyweight for someone who weighs 200.
In actual numbers, I will suggest 225 kg, which is 495 lbs. We'll call either of those a 500 lb. DL. In pounds, 495 is also exactly 5 big wheels (45 lb. plates) on either side of a standard, 45 lb. bar.
If you don't like 5 big wheels for this, please comment as by replying below and, of course, please vote on the poll. We'll deal with "Simple" and numbers for women separately.
If you don't think we should have a barbell DL Sinister, you may say that below as well.
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No science claimed here - I am going by my gut in suggesting around 500 lbs., and that includes my recollection of Pavel and others mentioning this as a serious amount of weight to deadlift for an average size adult male. It represent over 2.5 times bodyweight for a 180 lb. man, and exactly 2.5 times bodyweight for someone who weighs 200.
In actual numbers, I will suggest 225 kg, which is 495 lbs. We'll call either of those a 500 lb. DL. In pounds, 495 is also exactly 5 big wheels (45 lb. plates) on either side of a standard, 45 lb. bar.
If you don't like 5 big wheels for this, please comment as by replying below and, of course, please vote on the poll. We'll deal with "Simple" and numbers for women separately.
If you don't think we should have a barbell DL Sinister, you may say that below as well.
-S-
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