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Kettlebell Injured from TGU while doing S&S

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I am not sure wether its completely true that I was injured from the TGU practice but the fact is that I've got pain and cant do the excercise at the moment. I did achieve the simple standards late last spring so it is nearly a year ago. After that I was traveling all summer for work an couldnt practice with kettlebells at all.

I did start again in late september and had to take a step back and start practicing TGU with the 24kg again, the swings was no problem though and I could start with the 32kg right away.

It felt pretty good and thought I'd be practicing with the 32kg again soon, that never happened... I started developing pain on the sides of my back shooting up from my hip bone towards my lats when doing the initial move to elbow, first on one side then on the other. In the end I couldnt do TGU at all and the pain started to migrate all over my back to my shoulders and neck.

At the moment I do 32kg swings, hip bridges, goblet squats, ring dips and a lot of stretching. I am still in pain and feel slightly hindered in my everyday life and work wich is far from what I want. Earlier this year I bought a 36 and a 40 so thats what I want to aim for, not damage control!

Tips or help, anyone?
 
Yes, get to a Dr.

It sounds like nerve impingement of some sort, possibly from a disk or inflammation but this is just speculation. You need a Dr.

Alternating ice pack and warm bottle probably a safe bet in the meantime if you can pinpoint where the pain is originating - ice to reduce any inflammation that may be present and warm bottle to relax the muscles a bit if they are spasming.
 
offwidth said:
Seek a medical opinion from a qualified practioner. Preferably one experienced in sports injuries and orthopedics.
It could be any number of things that shouldn't be diagnosed via the internet.
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Thanks. Yes I did seek professional help... Physiotherapy, went to the doctor, acupuntur, the doctor did an MRI to asses wether I had some actual physical causes for the pain. Nothing od´f course. Everyone who has had non specific pain in the back knows that you are most likely to get a pat on the back and a prescription for a pain killer from your common professionals. I have experienced longstanding pain before and sorted it out myself. So I am wondering what I can do for myself in the way of excercise for better function and/or mobility, that is in my experience and opinion the best way of treating nonspecific pain longterm. I am pretty new to kettlebells but far from new to physical activity
 
North Coast Miller said:
Yes, get to a Dr.

It sounds like nerve impingement of some sort, possibly from a disk or inflammation but this is just speculation. You need a Dr.

Alternating ice pack and warm bottle probably a safe bet in the meantime if you can pinpoint where the pain is originating - ice to reduce any inflammation that may be present and warm bottle to relax the muscles a bit if they are spasming.
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Yes I could definitively need someone who has experience with treating and rehabilitating injuries like mine and that is in most cases not a Dr. I have been injured before and been to many doctors and in almost all cases they have nothing to offer but pills..
 
Fredrik said:
Yes I could definitively need someone who has experience with treating and rehabilitating injuries like mine and that is in most cases not a Dr. I have been injured before and been to many doctors and in almost all cases they have nothing to offer but pills..
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I have worked wonders for myself alternating ice and heat and NSAIDs if your stomach tolerates them.

After that is mobility work with close attention to posture during the day. I agree most Dr are no good for this sort of thing, esp if the MRI shows no cause.

But...not all doctors see the same thing when looking at the same MRI. I'd get a second, third opinion.
 
North Coast Miller said:
I have worked wonders for myself alternating ice and heat and NSAIDs if your stomach tolerates them.

After that is mobility work with close attention to posture during the day. I agree most Dr are no good for this sort of thing, esp if the MRI shows no cause.

But...not all doctors see the same thing when looking at the same MRI. I'd get a second, third opinion.
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Yeah I did NSAIDs too much many years ago and for me it only meant temporary relief and eventually stomach upset. I firmly believe that inflammation is a symptom not the cause so I prefer working with posture, as you mentioned, wich I think is very important and mobility. Now I've started leaning towards physical imbalance as cause for many "injuries"
 
You may have simply pulled a muscle on both sides from not doing them for awhile & just need to rest it. Maybe a bigger step back to the 16 next time & build back from there. I’ve had a similar injury when coming back after a lay off. Note: I’m a garbage truck driver not a health professional
 
As someone who has dealt with back pain my whole adult life the only thing that’s ever helped me is time. I would recommend not doing anything for at least a week and when you feel able to start back up I would drop the weight WAY down and slowly progress back up. I’ve seen it countless times not only in my own life but many others too.....doing too much too soon.
 
@Fredrik
I second the second opinion. Especially one from a crackerjack specialist (if you can find one). I know how frustrating these things can be, and many doctors are indeed pill pushers (the world over)
If you can getting evaluated by an FMS may help pinpoint some potential underlying cause.
Alternating hot and cold via contrast showers may give some temporary relief.
Rest, relaxation techniques, even breathing exercises may help.
I wish you well in your quest. Please keep us posted...
 
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@Fredrik
I second the second opinion. Especially one from a crackerjack specialist (if you can find one). I know how frustrating these things can be, and many doctors are indeed pill pushers (the world over)
If you can getting evaluated by an FMS may help pinpoint some potential underlying cause.
Alternating hot and cold via contrast showers may give some temporary relief.
Rest, relaxation techniques, even breathing exercises may help.
I wish you well in your quest. Please keep us posted...
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Yeah I think many are pill pushers simply because they dont know what else to do. Know any good FMS that do assessment online via skype? Dont think we have FMS here in Sweden
 
Fredrik said:
Dont think we have FMS here in Sweden
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There's at least one in Stockholm (Andre Lysell) and one in Göteborg (Tommy Blom***) and many more in Finland, Norway and Denmark. Depending on your location one of them might be very close even though it's in a different country (e.g. if you live in Malmö Copenhagen is just 10min away).

***Tommy Blom is also a Master SFG. He can definitely help you with your problem.
Tommy Blom, StrongFirst-Certified Instructor
 
Other than seeing a doc, you might wanna try some OS resets and see if they help relieve the pain. Chancese are that they help you with a) the healing proceses and b) restoring more efficient or "natural" movement patterns.

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Rolling and Cross Crawling would be my first go to.
 
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There's at least one in Stockholm (Andre Lysell) and one in Göteborg (Tommy Blom***) and many more in Finland, Norway and Denmark. Depending on your location one of them might be very close even though it's in a different country (e.g. if you live in Malmö Copenhagen is just 10min away).

***Tommy Blom is also a Master SFG. He can definitely help you with your problem.
Tommy Blom, StrongFirst-Certified Instructor
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Thanks! I will see if I find anyone reasonably close. I was thinking about Tommy yes but I live in a very remote part of Sweden so 1000 miles to Stockholm and even longer to Gothenburg. I'll see, send him an e-mail and take it from there.
 
I get side pains like yours from time to time. There are muscles between the hip bone and the rib cage that get inflamed a bit from time to time in my case. I tend to blame judo for this, but it's not impossible that some weight lifting moves I do can aggravate things. Actually, I got a bad pain like this in December from a hard judo session that kept me away from training for 3 weeks.

I cannot say anything directly to you about your condition but in my case, getting sore from judo a lot, I've had to look for alternatives for the S&S moves on judo nights - the swings are yet more cardio, which I don't need after 90 minutes of crazy judo practice, and the TGUs are yet more getups after getting up off the ground hundreds of times in judo. So, what then? Presses, windmills, side presses, double presses, deadlifts, chinups, dips, curls, mace 360s and 280s. Lots of other stuff to choose from for sore days. Walking helps me a lot to recover from soreness.
 
I second (third, 4th...) the suggestions above especially resting completely, and also contacting someone online for a visual on your technique.

As far as 1000 miles and isolation, if at all possible, don't rule a face to face meetup out, even as a supplement to online/Skype work, if you can manage it (although if you had no road access that would be challenging). I don't know all your circumstances, but as someone who has lived in a few "literally in - the middle of nowhere/18hrs-driving-to-the-next-major-center" sorts of places I really understand any hesitation. I do recall us having a few "make a vacation out of it" trips as a family in order to accomplish various other tasks dh or myself wanted to do.

As well, in real life an SFG can see things that camera angles cannot. Even online video though to an instructor is better than not at all, and that is great you are seeking out help, vs keeping on going through the pain, as so many people stubbornly do. Keep us posted how it goes.
 
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