Yes, slowly start a running habit while continuing kettlebell work. Al's Serious Endurance plan is a good one. Andrew Read's "Run Strong" is a good reference to get started with running. They will go well together, provided you start easy and slow with the running...Am I correct that I would be better getting into some locomotion (running) habit. Or is it still a good option for the above-stated goals compared to other options (A+A, trying to make Sinister goal, the kind of training Harald refers to on this thread).
Perhaps that in and of itself alters my views and ideas about strength and fitness. =]I would footnote this to add that this dude is not a weekend warrior, recreational athlete or desk jockey.
Sir, you have me by 1 pound, but otherwise we share the same stats. Although of late I've been leaner than usual.I'm 5'7", 174 pounds, 32" waist. Not fat, but not lean.
I'm about to see how rucking plays into the snatches.
I'm not rucking as frequently as @Harald Motz is running... more like 1-2/week. I also just finished three weeks of Strong Endurance plan 033c.
I'm shifting to A + A snatches next week and will compare to my last round of it this past winter
Running easy and relaxed frequently is a like a gift.
I ruck 3-5 times a week and Snatch A&A 3 times weekly.
Sir, you have me by 1 pound, but otherwise we share the same stats.
Rucking is a great two-birds one stone event in "apocalypse planning" since once we run out of gas we will need to hump our worldly possessions around on our backs. Honestly, I've never been in better shape or stronger by following a LSD aerobic + A+A snatches training plan.but a primal part of me likes the idea of being combat/fighting ready in case the fecal matter hits the spinning bladed apparatus.
Perhaps yourself sir, but my face is one only a mother could love. =]Two sexy beast peas (poods?) in a pod
This is a great question. If you give it enough time, I am sure that you can work all day... but no one has that kind of time to donate to PT alone. Higher volume will only cause fatigue later in the day if: they are too heavy, and/or you forced the accumulation of volume.At what point do the more experienced people on this thread start to see diminishing returns with their A+A work? Has working with a higher number of repeats led to being more tired throught the day? Do you have a predetermined set of repeats or just go until a comfortable stop?
add me to that list of Al's students who have experienced remarkable outcomes in performance. I do a few backpacking trips a year and one of them with a buddy of mine who is an ultra-runner.This sounds deceptively simple, but Neal rucks with 45 - 65 lb for 30-90 minutes, and snatches 32-36kg for 16-40 repeats of 5. Day after day, week after week, month after month. Some serious work and capacity built from smart, slow building. True A+A+LSD work -- and one of our best examples to follow! Along with @Miguel, @Harald Motz , and others... basically we do what @aciampa guides us to do, and it works incredibly well for both performance AND health.
I typically get in 1 long ruck (90+minutes) and 1 short (30-40 min) each week.
Mark, the program I am planning on outlining in my book is snatches, push ups, and run. We can fit your rucking in as a substitute. I think you'll like it!I just finished 3 weeks of the Strong Endurance plan 033c (I wanted to get those push ups in) and will switch back to snatching A+A this week.
Email me; though I though that we already discussed this.Would love to hear if y'all have any ideas on formally including push ups in the training.
@aciampa will do. No max rep testing in this one... Just lots of them with a 35 lb pack onMark, the program I am planning on outlining in my book is snatches, push ups, and run. We can fit your rucking in as a substitute. I think you'll like it!
Email me; though I though that we already discussed this.
when the returns start to deminish can be opaque to define.people on this thread start to see diminishing returns with their A+A work?
not so much after a session, but high volume weeks can take its toll, as one can feel fatigue as it accumulates with volume, obviously seen on hr readings as "well recoverred" makes for a calm hr-reading.Has working with a higher number of repeats led to being more tired throught the day?
Most sessions with the 40k fall in the 20-30 range, and I generally listen to the feel of my hands.Do you have a predetermined set of repeats or just go until a comfortable stop?