A friend at judo who is a "serious lifter" and I talk a lot about lifting, and he pointed out some benchmark goals for different barbell lifts. I wonder what y'all think about them: 2X bodyweight: Deadlift 1.5X bodyweight: bench press squat 1X bodyweight: overhead press This also got me thinking about how kettlebells compare to this. I get the impression that the only kind of kettlebell moves that can compete with barbells for "pure strength" are presses and curls. This may be why Pavel sets 1/2 bodyweight pressing and TGUing as the ultimate goal for us in ROP and S&S Sinister, if the barbell benchmark is your full bodyweight in two hands. At the same time, this kind of benchmark makes me think of the TGU or overhead press as being a full-out full-strength move that can compete with any "serious lifting" move, and maybe why I always felt the TGUs in S&S were just as important as the swings. (Sorry, maybe this has turned more into a kettlebell post than barbell.) Another thought is that by analogy thinking of my ring dips as comparable to the bench press, my bodyweight only dips are too light. I should attach a 48kg kettlebell to me to get to the 1.5 bodyweight level.