TedDK
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For example.
Marathon/Half Marathon/Ironman.
Kettlebell Can you actually JUST use KB’s as a primary cardio?
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Marathon/Half Marathon/Ironman.
If that has become common Internet speak in English, it's a new one on me. E.g., which stands for exempli gratia (it's Latin) is traditional.
Totally unfamiliar to me as well.
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offwidth
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Well the term ‘slowly’ was the articles author, not mine. This is one reason I object to the term LSD; at least to those who will listen.
The term better used is LED, with the E standing for Easy. In the context of running, cycling, and other locomotive endeavors Easy does not have to be synonymous with Slow.
PeterLuffman
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Walking is great, if you are doing lots of walking you are active, but you are not aerobically fit. That's something different unless your walking is uphill and moves your HR into zone 2 (130-150bpm).
The KB protocols you mention will work your cardio-vascular system, but not as optimally as more traditional cardio methods.
Running, cycling and skiing for example elicit 100% maximal oxygen uptake, they increase stroke volume and build a larger heart that can pump blood around your body with less beats. The KB training protocols you mention will elicit about 30% maximal oxygen uptake. So you are doing something for your metabolic health, but you'd certainly benefit from some steady state cardio done 1-2 per week. Of course adherence is the biggest factor in all of this. If you enjoy it, you keep doing it.
pet'
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Hello,
I wonder if something like the 10k challenge could be done aerobically, due to the fact that these are not "HardStyle". For instance, using a breathing ladder or something along these lines
www.t-nation.com
Kind regards,
Pet'
I wonder if something like the 10k challenge could be done aerobically, due to the fact that these are not "HardStyle". For instance, using a breathing ladder or something along these lines
The 10,000 Swing Kettlebell Workout
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Kind regards,
Pet'
TedDK
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Bill Lets
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My two cents.
Your a big guy fifty three to fifty eight range is not extremely low so you are probably good. It may be a good idea to get tested for hypothyroidism, symptoms include weight gain and slowed heart rate, also called bradycardia.
I have hypo my heart rate while at rest can be in the low forties. I take Armor Thyroid which brings my levels within a normal range also iodine.
side note* Frank Zane would take Armor for pre contest to shed some fat (as if he had any).
Your a big guy fifty three to fifty eight range is not extremely low so you are probably good. It may be a good idea to get tested for hypothyroidism, symptoms include weight gain and slowed heart rate, also called bradycardia.
I have hypo my heart rate while at rest can be in the low forties. I take Armor Thyroid which brings my levels within a normal range also iodine.
side note* Frank Zane would take Armor for pre contest to shed some fat (as if he had any).
Sam Goldner
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Yes, there are studies that show those benefits associated with aerobic fitness…but there’s more than one way to get “aerobic fitness” and more than one way to get those same benefits from “just” strength training or walking even if you want to say those won’t helps. Your aerobic fitness or don’t count as cardio.
Again, Joel is fantastic and has WAY more experience than I do in training athletes and in focusing on conditioning as a specialty. That definitely counts. However, he’s not actually backing up his key statement in this post that “Lifting weights and going for walks to get your steps in simply is not enough if your goal is to maximize your health and live the longest life free of disease possible.” He‘s brilliant, he’s experienced, but I don’t know if what he wrote is true; it’s educated conjecture.
TedDK
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Do you back anything up? ;-)
Sam Goldner
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Never have to; I expertly toe the line of authoritative-skepticism without actually saying anything concrete.
Ege
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Boris Bachmann
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Fwiw, I agree w. Sam. I think there will eventually be a corpus of research showing that, for example, a continuous hour of (lighter) kettlebell snatches is as good as just about any other more traditional aerobic exercise, but that day might be a long way off. If SF or some other organization would help organize and fund it, well maybe it could happen sooner rather than later but who knows?
offwidth
Level 9 Valued Member
I’m assuming here that when you say “is as good as” you are talking about heart health?
Boris Bachmann
Level 7 Valued Member
Heart and lungs and general adaptations - obviously sport/task specific cardio is a different deal
I'll volunteer as a guinea pig!
Boris Bachmann
Level 7 Valued Member
So would I.
Sam Goldner
Level 5 Valued Member
I listened to this yesterday. That was a phenomenal episode; thanks for posting it.