TimothyGander
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And because they're cheaper and take up less space.Cast irons are made that way because it was the obvious way to make them, not because its the best way to get stronger.
And because they're cheaper and take up less space.Cast irons are made that way because it was the obvious way to make them, not because its the best way to get stronger.
This applies equally not just to get-ups, but to all overhead lifts with kettlebells. Suggested solutions include adding dumbbell, barbell and "fatbell" getups to training and a plethora of remedial/mobility drills. Am I correct in thinking that using competition bells for heavier lifting may be a better alternative?Most people use cast iron kettlebells, which means that as the kettlebell gets heavier, they also get physically bigger—the spherical part of the kettlebell increases in diameter. At a certain point, the increase in diameter of the kettlebell starts to significantly change the physics of the system and once this happens it becomes difficult, sometimes even unrealistic, to maintain the vertical alignment described above. This is because the center of mass of the heavy kettlebell needs to be directly over the shoulder joint. When the kettlebell becomes physically large enough, it forces the arm forward so that the spherical portion of the kettlebell can sit directly above the shoulder.
Maybe for some people. Not for me. I'll always stick with cast iron kettlebells.Am I correct in thinking that using competition bells for heavier lifting may be a better alternative?
I think you're assuming facts not in evidence. You'd want to at least compare the size of a 16 kg and a 48 kg cast iron bell with a competition bell and also know the weight distribution for the lighter sizes since much of the inside is, I believe, empty in the lighter sizes.Am I correct in thinking that using competition bells for heavier lifting may be a better alternative?
Finding comfort or enjoyment or easy on your hands, some of the things that were mentioned by those preferring competition style bells, aren't our concern at StrongFirst.
If I was to do it all over again I'd get an adjustable competition bell (12kg to 32kg). If ever you start doing doubles then you only need to get one extra bell.
+1I respectfully disagree. There is such a thing as a "best training plan" - it's the one you'll do consistently because you enjoy doing it. When I come home after a stressful day at work I want to enjoy what I do.
I think you're assuming facts not in evidence. You'd want to at least compare the size of a 16 kg and a 48 kg cast iron bell with a competition bell and also know the weight distribution for the lighter sizes since much of the inside is, I believe, empty in the lighter sizes.
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There is such a thing as a "best training plan" - it's the one you'll do consistently because you enjoy doing it. When I come home after a stressful day at work I want to enjoy what I do.
Have they ever gone on sale or offered free shipping?
IIRC they had a Black Friday sale last year.Have they ever gone on sale or offered free shipping?
Good to know! I definitely missed that.IIRC they had a Black Friday sale last year.
I think this is an important distinction. Even if SF kettlebells are the best possible choice, it doesn't follow that any cast iron bells would be a better choice over competition ones.I’ve used a lot of the old RKC and Perform Better bells at various gyms in my travels and I could see why people who’ve only used those often prefer comp bells.
Interesting. I have only that weight from that particular manufacturer (no-name company in Eastern Europe) and thought all their bells must be made like that. I wonder what may have caused the 28 kg bells to have oversized handles all over the world.28kg bells cast iron typically have very large handles as well.
Client with an Apollo 28, normal in every way, the bell.Interesting. I have only that weight from that particular manufacturer (no-name company in Eastern Europe) and thought all their bells must be made like that. I wonder what may have caused the 28 kg bells to have oversized handles all over the world.
The weight and arm moves together so the center of gravity is still centered in the joint. Minimal difference in how it affects the arm and working muscles. So, it does not matter.Am I correct in thinking that using competition bells for heavier lifting may be a better alternative?