A long time ago, one my dad's co-workers (they were ironworkers) finished 3rd in a world championship in archery. I believe it was in Hungary, but not sure. I worked one summer with them, and he told me how many hours he practiced a day. His upper body was pretty impressive, no compounds back then, all recurves. His name was Bud Dietzler(sp). One 4th of July, his archery club (the Hemlock Archers) took on the local police in a shooting contest, at various distances, maybe 10-20-30 yds. The police shot their service pistols, still all revolvers back then. The archers won. That's not the kind of thing, you'd see today at a park on the 4th.