Deadlift, Q&D, and more

Discussion in 'Barbell' started by mikhael, Aug 23, 2019.

  1. mikhael

    mikhael Quadruple-Digit Post Count

    @Pavel Macek

    Hi All good souls of this greatest forum of Strength.

    I've got a question for you regarding Deadlift and Q&D.
    About me, in few words.
    I'm 36, military, big fan of kettlebell, bodyweight, strength seeker and student.
    I'm wondering how to approach PTTP but without Presses due to the wrist injury. I'm not able to do any sort of presses, not even TGU so every such movement I do on the knuckles (I'm yellow belt owner in karate Kyokushin, thus I prefer to call it Seiken).
    When it comes to pull movements there are no limits. I can do swings, Pull-ups, and Deadlifts. Moreover, I would have an opportunity to practice DL in a gym placed in my base, thus I decided to focus an this lift.

    Now, my question is, how to best combine DL with the following exercises:
    • Pull-ups (also weighted),
    • Dips,
    • Squats (Pistols are not a problem),
    • Handstand Push-ups (currently at eccentric level),
    • Front Lever Progression,
    • and finally Q&D.
    I'm sorry in advance for my English, I'm still learning this language.
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  2. Pavel Macek

    Pavel Macek More than 2500 posts Master Instructor


    I would suggest a simple program: Q&D + PTTP deadlifts. Add some Hardstyle Abs exercises (Hanging Leg Raises and Full Contact Twists), and you are all good.
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  3. mikhael

    mikhael Quadruple-Digit Post Count

    What about Pull-ups? I need them in my job.
  4. Pavel Macek

    Pavel Macek More than 2500 posts Master Instructor

    If you need them in your job, do them 2x-3x/week, 3-5 sets of 3-5, preferably weighted (with about 7-10 RM weight).
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  5. Steve A

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  6. Kozushi

    Kozushi More than 2500 posts

    I've done deadlifts for years in a PTTP way (more or less) alongside S&S, judo and bodyweight stuff. There might be some kind of imbalance if someone only did deadlifts and no kind of press at all to balance it out a bit, but in any case I haven't had problems doing the deadlifts alongside other things.
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  7. mikhael

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    Ok, first session done. Deadlift and Squats. Now, the question is how often should I do DL? 3 or 5 times a week? If 5, I'll rotate Squats and Weighted Pull-ups. If 3, than DL+Squats 3 times a week, and Weighted Pull-ups + Presses 2 times a week.
  8. Steve Freides

    Steve Freides Dir. of Community Engagement, SFB, Senior SFG Staff Member Senior Instructor

    @mikhael: What about pushups on your knuckles/fists? I have found those to be excellent wrist strengtheners.

  9. mikhael

    mikhael Quadruple-Digit Post Count

    Yes @Steve Freides, they are strengthening my wrists. I've been doing Push-ups on the knuckles since my first karate lesson, which was a looooong time ago.

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