Bodyweight Difficulty of pushup variations

[Ricky01]

Hey guys

I know some of this is leverage based and some is opinion - but I wondered on how you ordered pushups ie

I am just starting a bodyweight pttp routine for a little summer fun alongside my OS work.

I will increase reps from 5/3/2 to 10/8/6 - doing this about 3-5 days a week.

I will start with feet elevated pushups....then onto incline diamonds....diamonds....feet elevated diamonds....then....back through the order again but band resisted.

Thoughts? This might become a bodyweight bear routine quite soon.

Richard

 

[kodo kb]

I'd do push-ups, pike push-ups at various heights, and then handstand push-ups for your progression. I also would stick to the 5/3/2 rep scheme and just modulate the intensity via incline setups.

What are you doing for legs?

Also, if you're thinking of doing a BW bear, there is no need to reinvent the wheel. This old DD forum thread has a lot of good ideas and discussion about it: Naked Warrior Bear

 

[305pelusa]

This old DD forum thread has a lot of good ideas and discussion about it: Naked Warrior Bear

It's always nice to see your posts 6 years ago and realize just how s***ty your advice was.

Also, throwback to when I wasn't banned from DD.

 

[kodo kb]

@305pelusa , YOU got banned? That's hilarious to me, as you seemed to be one of the better/nicer members.

Since you brought it up, what would you recommend now? Not that I'd ever do a BW
Bear, but the OP might find it useful and I'm curious.

 

[305pelusa]

@305pelusa , YOU got banned? That's hilarious to me, as you seemed to be one of the better/nicer members.

I was very explicit in my dislike for Convict Conditioning. That was their number 1 seller. One time, I pointed out how Wade shamelessly lied on various spots in the book, so I got the boot. That's why my name is grey on that thread.

In retrospect, it was great for me. I moved on to the Reddit BW community, which is simply the biggest concentration of calisthenics talent online.

Since you brought it up, what would you recommend now? Not that I'd ever do a BW
Bear, but the OP might find it useful and I'm curious.

I would not recommend the Bear to anyone, let alone some watered-down, bastardized version restricted to calisthenics.

That thread was when I didn't know much. Pavel and Dan John was mostly what I read, so I just modified their stuff to calisthenics. Now that I've had much more exposure and experience with many calisthenics specialist, I know of many better ways to build muscle that aren't Bear-templates at all.

As far as OPs question:

Thoughts?

I used to think similarly to you, in that I'd take weighted programs and try to fit in calisthenics to it. The reality is that PTTP works in its own context; try to do it with all sorts of different push-ups, and you're just asking to get suboptimal results.

I've been there and I've done it. I know how exciting it is to try to formulate your own cool little intelligent program. So I'll be the last one to tell you not to do it. So go ahead, try it, and keep using harder push-ups. You have the right idea, although you might have to progress to OAPUs soon, as well as up the volume a bit more (DLs work with much less volume than most exercises).

What I think is the less exciting option is to follow a tried-and-true calisthenics-original program that matches your goals. It just has a much higher chance of success. There's a lot of junk out there so if you tell me a bit more about your goals, I can recommend something good. Most of the good stuff on calisthenics is free out there anyways. You just have to be able to accurately filter it.