movestrength
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Thank you so much, Jeff and Pet! I’m doing chest and triceps today, working on the form and technique.
I thought high volume was good for tendons?You get the adaptations you train for...with very little "leakage" in terms of carryover. High volume lacks the necessary adaptive triggers to the tendons (tendons run in sheets all through the muscle, they don't just attach at the ends), as such it lags in developing max strength
If you were to include with your high volume resistance, some form of isometrics or other high tension training methods you'd get a MUCH better adaptive response.
Charles Bronson was also a miner and all around work hardened man, who knows what else he did for fitness. Individual response to any given protocol is another wild-card. And then we have muscle attachment points etc - my brother in law (fireman) built like a tree stump, was able to bench 400lbs without having lifted for over three years.
I thought high volume was good for tendons?
I think I may have been a victim of broscience then. Something I always try to evade. Thanks for replying!!The literature really doesn't support that theory - tension needs to be at 70%+ of your 1RM or there doesn't seem to be much of a response (this also about the threshold for bone density increases). How you apply the load seems to matter - rapid, brief exertions increase elasticity, longer holds increase stiffness, both methods increase density but the longer holds do so to a greater extent.
Higher volume might be good for the joints themselves, but I haven't read anything to support that.
I believe the idea is that high rep/lower intensity generates more bloodflow, which tendons do not get much of on their own. Thus, the rationale is that increased bloodflow to joints = more nutrients to joints = healthier joint tissue. But as @North Coast Miller said, you really do need decently heavy loads to actually change the composition of tendons themselves.I thought high volume was good for tendons?
Anecdotally speaking, i can tell you that doing over a thousand pushups every other day ( up to 3 thousand) i was able within a few short weeks of weight training, bench press 365 pounds for 5 reps at a bodyweight of approximately 180 pounds. I was 21 at the time (46 now, in 2021). I can also tell you i am genetically built for both exercises, thick build, short limbs. However, I also think building thick tendons and ligaments via high rep pushups laid the groundwork. I can also tell you i did high rep pushups, pullups and situps along with LOTS of running to prepare for Marine Corps boot camp. I actually overprepared and got into s***ty shape while there.I don't have sources on hand, but anecdotally speaking, many people who train with heavier resistance and lower reps find that they can do easier variations for very high reps without having specifically trained them. I don't think the same is often said for strength gains from high reps. Also anecdotally speaking, I have seen it said that high repetitions are good for circulation in the joints as well as joint health. Once again though, I don't have a source on hand for that.
Perhaps somebody else will chime in, but based on what I have personally read it seems as though ladders may be a nice medium between the two ends of the spectrum.
Curious how you came to that conclusion? I've only ever seen little kids, toddlers, spontaneously squat with heels on the ground. A lot less balance issues if heels down though of course then you don't get the balance training of tweaking your gravity field proprioceptors so muchI for instance believe the hindu squat is a much more natural squat
Curious how you came to that conclusion? I've only ever seen little kids, toddlers, spontaneously squat with heels on the ground. A lot less balance issues if heels down though of course then you don't get the balance training of tweaking your gravity field proprioceptors so much
I question this. I lost most of my mobility in adulthood, as do many, but once I started working on it in my 40's, it came back.Toddlers are not fully formed and therefore far more supple than adults.
I got most of mine back (not all HAH!) in my late 60's early 70's. Formerly barely to parallel after two surgeries and a 13 year enduro of gnarly sciatica. Now ATG and hang out a bit.I question this. I lost most of my mobility in adulthood, as do many, but once I started working on it in my 40's, it came back.
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I'm not an anatomy expert nor am I a pediatrician so take my word with a pinch of salt. My understanding is we are born with about 300 bones and soft cartilage, by the time we reach adulthood we have about 200 bones and the soft cartilage we had became dense bone structure, the skeleton becomes fully formed and we stop growing.I question this. I lost most of my mobility in adulthood, as do many, but once I started working on it in my 40's, it came back.
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They also work different muscles or at least emphasize different ones.Maybe it's just me but I've always struggled with the balance in Hindu squats. Flat foot feels much more stable, and more comfortable if I'm holding it for a while.
I've said it before, I'll say it again: try wrestling on soft sand, and you'll know why they squat this way. In Sumo, the squat is flat footed by the way, they rise on their toes when they come up in the shiko. Once again, the surface they compete on is the reason for that, they move on flat feet as well for the most partwhen in the ring - for more traction. Different wrestling surfaces dictate different footwork, and different rules dictate different attacks. In freestyle, shots are king, and so shots is what we train. Nobody cares how many squats of whatever kind I can do if I can take my man down reliably with a single leg each time. Certain other exercises seem to be more universally used in almost all wrestling styles - rope climbing for example is used pretty much everywhere as far as I know, except for Sumo and Bökh.Take a peak behind the curtain at any Asian or African country where there isn't much furniture, at least out in the countryside. Do an image search. Not a lot of toe squatting going on there. Young, old, and everyone in between has their heels on the ground. That said if you plan on needing to explode up and forward out of your squat, then by all means, heels up, Sumo, Indian wrestlers...
Just look up building the wrestlers body, which details all the vyayam exercises those two sources are derived fromThank you, I will check this out.
What about Combat Conditioning by Matt Furey as well? He does a lot of Hindu push ups and squats.