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Kettlebell "Giant 1.0"

John Grahill

Level 7 Valued Member
Hello!

I’ve just finished my W2D2 of 1.2 with 2x24kg Damn those sets of 9. I’ve done one more than last week. 5 in total in 25 minutes.
I’m trying the 20/25/30/25 format and I think it’s pretty appropriate. I wish I did try this on 1.1 already.

I really look forward to increasing the weights and going back to shorter sets, 2 more weeks to go !
That's tough work! Those higher rep c+p sets crush you!
 

Gypsyplumber

Level 5 Valued Member
Hello!

I’ve just finished my W2D2 of 1.2 with 2x24kg Damn those sets of 9. I’ve done one more than last week. 5 in total in 25 minutes.
I’m trying the 20/25/30/25 format and I think it’s pretty appropriate. I wish I did try this on 1.1 already.

I really look forward to increasing the weights and going back to shorter sets, 2 more weeks to go !
I have yet to try 1.2….the sets of 8 on 1.1 had me going though. After I finish 3.0 I may try a lighter weight and go for 1.2.
 

SUOMI-PUKU

Level 5 Valued Member
If you were to assign a rep max to have before beginning each program what would you say? I plan to run them all but just out of curiosity more than anything, could be a useful resource for anyone wanting to jump directly from 2.0 into 1.1 or 1.2 or to reassure you’re ready before stepping up a program.

3.0 - 5RM
1.0 - 10RM
2.0 - 10RM
1.1 - ?
1.2 - ?
 
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Apax

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If you were to assign a rep max to have before beginning each program what would you say? I plan to run them all but just out of curiosity more than anything, could be a useful resource for anyone wanting to jump directly into 2.0, 1.1 or 1.2 or to reassure before stepping up a program.

3.0 - 5RM
1.0 - 10RM
2.0 - ?
1.1 - ?
1.2 - ?
Pretty sure you use 10RM for 1.0 - 2.0. 3.0 is the only one with 5RM. I plan on retesting my 10 RM after I get through 1-2.
 

HUNTER1313

Level 6 Valued Member
I see everyone jumping all over the place. I was under the impression that you did 3.0 to more or less get stronger/get your rm up and the start at 1.0 and proceed through 1.1 1.2 2.0 etc
 

John Grahill

Level 7 Valued Member
I see everyone jumping all over the place. I was under the impression that you did 3.0 to more or less get stronger/get your rm up and the start at 1.0 and proceed through 1.1 1.2 2.0 etc
This is my take too.....use the 2.0 and /or 1.0 to start then proceed through 1.1 and 1.2 with the same weight. The RM should most likely increase after each phase is completed. The only time the RM is a concern is when starting out in phase 1 or 2.
 

SUOMI-PUKU

Level 5 Valued Member
I see everyone jumping all over the place. I was under the impression that you did 3.0 to more or less get stronger/get your rm up and the start at 1.0 and proceed through 1.1 1.2 2.0 etc
Nope 2.0 states a 10RM too so bit of an odd one. If you do that then test your bells and get a 13RM where would people go after that? 1.1, 1.2? Or back to 1.0 to do the 1 series in order?
 

Kev

Level 5 Valued Member
Just finished week 3 of the Giant 1.0. I'm really pretty stoked about this program. I did the 2.0 first as I felt a "break in period" with higher reps than I was used to would be a good idea and the ladders made it a bit more tolerable.

Geoff Neupert advised me that although that idea of using the 2.0 first using ladders was certainly doable, I'd probably be shocked at the difficulty of straight sets.....he was dead right! Straight sets in a density type plan just plain suck! To give an idea, today was day three of week three. On day three of week one I got 50 total reps in 30:00. Today I got 80 reps! In addition, my heart rate today actually stayed lower than it did a couple of weeks ago doing much less volume! I gotta say I'm my mind that's great progress!

Next week is the final week of 1.0 and I'm going to do a deload of sorts, just going for 20 minutes rather than 30.

This program (s) rocks!

EDIT: See also this thread about the Giant program: Geoff Neupert "THE GIANT" ??
I’m on 1.1 right now and it’s a tonne of work. I’m using 2x25kg (my supplier never ever made 24kg moulds for reasons I never got) and it’s a bear. I’ve actually just purchased 2x28kg so as to run the program again once I’ve completed all the 4 week blocks and then up to using 2x32kg. That’s how far forward I’m planning on running this program. It’s good honest hard graft.
 

Jean-Marie

Level 2 Valued Member
Nope 2.0 states a 10RM too so bit of an odd one. If you do that then test your bells and get a 13RM where would people go after that? 1.1, 1.2? Or back to 1.0 to do the 1 series in order?
Honestly I haven’t tested my RM since I began 3.0 months ago.

I did two cycles of 3.0. At the end of my first 3.0, I just felt like I would not be able to do 1.0. And same for 1.0, just did two cycles just based on how I felt with the program.
I’m in the middle of 1.2 at the moment and still don’t know what my RM is.

But I know that when I’ll upgrade my bells from 24s to 28s. I’ll start with 3.0, or Strong Phase 1. And I may not even test my RM for that either.

Small tweaks I’ll make with 2x28kg though.
I’ll do 2.0 after 1.0. And I’ll do the 1.1 and 1.2 in the 20/25/30/25 format.
 

John Grahill

Level 7 Valued Member
Nope 2.0 states a 10RM too so bit of an odd one. If you do that then test your bells and get a 13RM where would people go after that? 1.1, 1.2? Or back to 1.0 to do the 1 series in order?
To me it's not odd at all. You have a choice of doing either the 1.0 or 2.0. Both start with a 10RM. My first time through with 32s last year I started with the 2.0 since it "eases" higher reps using ladders....hit up a higher rep set in a ladder and go back down to a lower rep set. Then I proceeded to the 1.0 to 1.2 using the 32s.

When I started with 36s, I did the 1.0 first then the 2.0 then the 1.1.

It doesn't really matter. I think Geoff even put an email or a description last year of the Giant wherein he says use a 10RM to start but that an 8 to 9 or an 11 to 12 would work.

There's no rules as to whether or not to start with the 1.0 or the 2.0, I was just relating how I personally did it.....not saying mine was/is the only way.

My two cents....find a 10 RM, begin with it and ride it out all the way and reap the benefits. 4 months later then worry about the small stuff.
 

John Grahill

Level 7 Valued Member
Honestly I haven’t tested my RM since I began 3.0 months ago.

I did two cycles of 3.0. At the end of my first 3.0, I just felt like I would not be able to do 1.0. And same for 1.0, just did two cycles just based on how I felt with the program.
I’m in the middle of 1.2 at the moment and still don’t know what my RM is.

But I know that when I’ll upgrade my bells from 24s to 28s. I’ll start with 3.0, or Strong Phase 1. And I may not even test my RM for that either.

Small tweaks I’ll make with 2x28kg though.
I’ll do 2.0 after 1.0. And I’ll do the 1.1 and 1.2 in the 20/25/30/25 format.
That 20/25/30/25 format is great for sure....I felt less "beaten up" at the end.
 

John Grahill

Level 7 Valued Member
I’m on 1.1 right now and it’s a tonne of work. I’m using 2x25kg (my supplier never ever made 24kg moulds for reasons I never got) and it’s a bear. I’ve actually just purchased 2x28kg so as to run the program again once I’ve completed all the 4 week blocks and then up to using 2x32kg. That’s how far forward I’m planning on running this program. It’s good honest hard graft.
It gave me some great results. I am gonna run it again really soon......
 
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barrak

Level 6 Valued Member
If you were to assign a rep max to have before beginning each program what would you say? I plan to run them all but just out of curiosity more than anything, could be a useful resource for anyone wanting to jump directly from 2.0 into 1.1 or 1.2 or to reassure you’re ready before stepping up a program.

3.0 - 5RM
1.0 - 10RM
2.0 - 10RM
1.1 - ?
1.2 - ?

1.0 - 10RM
1.1 and 1.2 - same weight used for 1.0.

However, if one intends to jump to 1.1 or 1.2, a good guess would be (X)RM where X = heavy day reps divided by 0.6. So,
1.1 - 13RM
1.2 - 15RM
 

Sean M

Level 6 Valued Member
1.0 - 10RM
1.1 and 1.2 - same weight used for 1.0.

However, if one intends to jump to 1.1 or 1.2, a good guess would be (X)RM where X = heavy day reps divided by 0.6. So,
1.1 - 13RM
1.2 - 15RM
Are you extrapolating 0.6 based on the rep range of sets for 1.0? If so - clever!
 

BrianCF

Level 6 Valued Member
Has anyone else had terrible workouts on Easy Day? I was running 1.0 and remember the 4 day being pretty rough. Even with a complete day of rest the day before. Yesterday doing 1.2, on the 7 day, I had absolutely NOTHING. Did 4 sets of 7 and called it a day. I was worried at popping my SI joint (common injury for me) if I did a 5th set. Easily a top 3 WORST workout of the year.

I don't know if it's mental. I ate enough or the time of day. I did it late afternoon and was stiff from work. Or just being 52 being 52.
 

John Grahill

Level 7 Valued Member
Has anyone else had terrible workouts on Easy Day? I was running 1.0 and remember the 4 day being pretty rough. Even with a complete day of rest the day before. Yesterday doing 1.2, on the 7 day, I had absolutely NOTHING. Did 4 sets of 7 and called it a day. I was worried at popping my SI joint (common injury for me) if I did a 5th set. Easily a top 3 WORST workout of the year.

I don't know if it's mental. I ate enough or the time of day. I did it late afternoon and was stiff from work. Or just being 52 being 52.
Yes and Yes.

Brian, I look at it like this...we're in our 50s....most guys at this age won't make the effort at all.....so even a bad workout is better than nothing!
 

barrak

Level 6 Valued Member
Has anyone else had terrible workouts on Easy Day? I was running 1.0 and remember the 4 day being pretty rough. Even with a complete day of rest the day before. Yesterday doing 1.2, on the 7 day, I had absolutely NOTHING. Did 4 sets of 7 and called it a day. I was worried at popping my SI joint (common injury for me) if I did a 5th set. Easily a top 3 WORST workout of the year.

I don't know if it's mental. I ate enough or the time of day. I did it late afternoon and was stiff from work. Or just being 52 being 52.
Funny how easy days trip our bodies and minds sometimes. I run in zones 3-4 and do strides, skips, SLDLs and TGUs all week... no problem. Recently, and on my Sunday easy long runs, my left IT band starts acting up around mile 5!

We just get complacent at times. In my case, I realized I was neglecting foot arch work for the past few weeks and my left foot now drifts slowly to its happy pronated place during a long easy run.
 
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