I decided to switch it up a little today and tried some clean and jerks. They just weren't my cup of tea. I much prefer the push press. Way more. I also decided to do single kettlebell as opposed to doubles. Again, I much prefer them. The question is, when doing single bell is it left, rest, right, rest, repeat or left, right, rest, repeat?
Just my humble opinion but you could probably do the singles either way. The left + right then rest protocol is probably the most productive with respect to putting on some muscle and conditioning/fat loss because of the extended time under tension.I decided to switch it up a little today and tried some clean and jerks. They just weren't my cup of tea. I much prefer the push press. Way more. I also decided to do single kettlebell as opposed to doubles. Again, I much prefer them. The question is, when doing single bell is it left, rest, right, rest, repeat or left, right, rest, repeat?
chasingstrength.comWheres the best place to purchase The Giant program?
@John Grahill would you recommend the original time template for a first pass of The Giant or straight in with the weekly split above?Did my week 2 day 3 of the 2.0 this morning. Despite the frigid temperatures outside, the peak reps of the day 3 ladders had me steaming! Next week is the 30 minute sessions.
The 20/25/30/25 time template Geoff suggested is a godsend for sure!
That time approach is interesting and I didn’t even know it was a thing. I’ll admit I’m not dogged about the 30 minutes. All that matters is smoking more sets than the week before. If I manage that at the 25 minute mark or the 27 minute mark I happily call it a day. But this looks good.@John Grahill would you recommend the original time template for a first pass of The Giant or straight in with the weekly split above?
I bought 2x28kg purely to bridge that gap and extend this program for however long it takes.I’m interested too lol. I would like to be able to run 1.0 with double 32s next but we’ll see where I’m at.
@Pete L I personally recommend the time template l have recently been using (20/25/30/25). I find a good pace for the first three weeks and then in week 4 I go for max density. Good pace for me means one wherein I'm fatigued at the end but not destroyed. The added time per workout each week allows for more volume each week a little bit more "humanely" while still being a challenge if ya know what I mean.@John Grahill would you recommend the original time template for a first pass of The Giant or straight in with the weekly split above?
The idea here is the c+p is basically a full-body movement that covers a lot of bases in a minimalist way....think "bang for buck."Thanks - does anyone know if The Giant is included in Kettlebell EXPRESS! - CHASING STRENGTH. As a beginner I'm wondering if KB Express might be a good place to start
Also is the Giant only C&P? Would you supplement with anything else?
Beautiful! Did you start The Giant as a noobie? Would you recommend it for a noobie?The idea here is the c+p is basically a full-body movement that covers a lot of bases in a minimalist way....think "bang for buck."
No, I've been training with kettlebells off and on since 2008 or 2009. I'm not really certain a "noobie" couldn't do the Giant but I think I'd recommend "Enter the Kettlebell " from Pavel. I know it's an older book with "older" programming but I think it's an awesome entry into kettlebell training. I'm pretty sure Geoff Neupert also has some programs for beginners. What's nice about kettlebell training is you can always "step back" and return to any program and make progress.Beautiful! Did you start The Giant as a noobie? Would you recommend it for a noobie?
Thanks for the message. Amazing work! That's a hell of a journey I've been looking at ETK, I assume you mean Rite of Passage? I'm trying to work my head through the programming of it, sometimes its a bit complicated to understandNo, I've been training with kettlebells off and on since 2008 or 2009. I'm not really certain a "noobie" couldn't do the Giant but I think I'd recommend "Enter the Kettlebell " from Pavel. I know it's an older book with "older" programming but I think it's an awesome entry into kettlebell training. I'm pretty sure Geoff Neupert also has some programs for beginners. What's nice about kettlebell training is you can always "step back" and return to any program and make progress.
Thanks for the detailed explanation!@Pete L I personally recommend the time template l have recently been using (20/25/30/25). I find a good pace for the first three weeks and then in week 4 I go for max density. Good pace for me means one wherein I'm fatigued at the end but not destroyed. The added time per workout each week allows for more volume each week a little bit more "humanely" while still being a challenge if ya know what I mean.
For me it works better because I found that with the three 30 minute sessions each week that I went all out each workout which 1) kind of burned me out .... 2) led to poorer form...... 3)made the whole process very draining.
Geoff's suggestion of the 20/25/30/25 intrigued me and I gave it a try and really think for 'ME' it's the way to go.
I recently restarted the Giant 1.0 and completed it and am currently in the third week of the 2.0 and doing well with it......1.1 is next......my goal is to repeat the 10x10 in faster time and lower bodyweight than last year when I did it!
Putting on some muscle, fat loss, and conditioning (which I am lacking for sure)? I'm soldJust my humble opinion but you could probably do the singles either way. The left + right then rest protocol is probably the most productive with respect to putting on some muscle and conditioning/fat loss because of the extended time under tension.
John, in Sense-Eye’s case, a professing “newbie”, do you think that the Strong videos would be most beneficial as far as meticulous instruction goes? From there one could go anywhere.No, I've been training with kettlebells off and on since 2008 or 2009. I'm not really certain a "noobie" couldn't do the Giant but I think I'd recommend "Enter the Kettlebell " from Pavel. I know it's an older book with "older" programming but I think it's an awesome entry into kettlebell training. I'm pretty sure Geoff Neupert also has some programs for beginners. What's nice about kettlebell training is you can always "step back" and return to any program and make progress.
I agree with this assessment. KB Strong is a great instructional video set. I've benefited immensely from it and I keep watching the videos and reading the PDF often to take cues on my technique. Also KB Strong gives a very systematic way to build strength ... even for a beginner. GIANT definitely is for someone who is well versed with the movements and is not looking for any teaching but an intelligent program.John, in Sense-Eye’s case, a professing “newbie”, do you think that the Strong videos would be most beneficial as far as meticulous instruction goes? From there one could go anywhere.
I have both programs and Giant in my opinion is for someone who already has the know-how and the why explained in the Strong videos.
I may be wrong here because I haven’t looked at the Giant program in a while. I’ve been on Strong for 24 weeks.
John, in Sense-Eye’s case, a professing “newbie”, do you think that the Strong videos would be most beneficial as far as meticulous instruction goes? From there one could go anywhere.
I have both programs and Giant in my opinion is for someone who already has the know-how and the why that are explained thoroughly in the Strong videos.
I may be wrong here because I haven’t looked at the Giant program in a while. I’ve been on Strong for 24 weeks.
I may be wrong here but generally speaking I thought it's recommended to start with singles rather than jump into doubles. I remember a video with Chris Lopez and Geoff wherein I believe Geoff recommended starting with single bell work and that the only exception was a professional athlete he worked with.I agree with this assessment. KB Strong is a great instructional video set. I've benefited immensely from it and I keep watching the videos and reading the PDF often to take cues on my technique. Also KB Strong gives a very systematic way to build strength ... even for a beginner. GIANT definitely is for someone who is well versed with the movements and is not looking for any teaching but an intelligent program.