Hey all, Try as I might, I can't seem to shake my love for the deadlift as my primary strength-building movement, and the press as it's compliment. To me, they form the ultimate full-body, high-tension combo, and what's really sealed the deal for me is that without training the squat or bench press my squat 5RM went up ~100lbs and my bench 5RM went up ~50lbs in ~3-4 months time. @Steve Freides, the longer I do this, the more I'm starting to believe you about not everyone needing to practice a loaded squat! That said, I seem to keep running into the fatigue wall hard, particularly with deadlifts. My last 4 cycles have been: May: 5:3 waves, 2x5 (2nd @ 90%) structure, 5lb jumps from 185x5 to 265x5, then needed 4-5 days to recover June: 5:3 waves, 2x5 (2nd @ 90%) structure, 15lb jumps from 185x5 to 275x5, then had a trip so could've conceivably started over again at 195-ish July 5:3 waves, 2x5 (2nd @ 90%) structure, 15lb jumps from 200x5 to 295x5, 300x3, then had another trip August: 4:3 waves, 5-3-2 structure, 10lb jumps from 200x5 to 250x5. The weights weren't heavy, but my lower back was absolutely killing me, and progressively more so every training session. One thing about doing 5:3 waves was that my heaviest day of the week was always Friday, which came on the heels of Monday - Thursday training. My CNS was working well at that point, but I had accumulated a lot of fatigue. Not sure whether it worked in my favor or not. I feel almost certain that 5-3-2 fatigued me a lot more than 2x5 (2nd a@ 90%). So, if you were me (or this was you), how would you set up your next PTTP cycle? Specific questions: What weight would you start with? (I'm thinking 200) What size jumps would you take? (15lb jumps seemed to work well for me. Every week you get a touch of ~70% and a touch of ~90% effort.) Would you do 2x5 (2nd @ 90%), or 5-3-2? (I know 5-3-2 is the newfangled thing, but I really had my best success on 2x5 with the back-off set.) How many days a week would you deadlift? Start out at 4-5 and go down to 2-3 as the weights increase? Or am I at a point where I should go full-on PTTP 2.0 (also here) and plan on 2 deadlift sessions a week with 2-3 additional back-off sets at 80%. I don't feel like the weights I'm moving are significant enough for that, but my body seems to be saying something needs to change. @Ryan Toshner, since you've shared the most that I could find about PTTP 2.0, maybe you could weigh in on whether someone who's worked up to a 300lb 5RM should be switching to PTTP 2.0 or whether it's better to still grind for a bit more on higher frequency. If only deadlifting 2-3 days/week, would you do S&S swings or something similar on non-deadlift training days, or would you just rest the lower body? How many days a week would you press? Do presses respond better than deadlifts to high frequency, even at relatively high intensity? (Press 5RM currently ~130, but was feeling the strongest it ever had towards the end of using 5-3-2 in August, training it 5 days/week) How do you overcome stalls in your pressing progression? The only solution I've come across is from an article Pavel wrote in 2002 (quoted here) in which he describes using 1,2,3 ladders with your 5RM. Would you do pull-ups? My shoulders have never felt better than since I started doing pull-ups in July, and my pull-up strength has really exploded, but I wonder if they contributed to overall systemic fatigue that saw me burn out in August? After all, adding them to PTTP increases your training volume by 50%. As you can see, I have a lot of questions. I do well when I'm able to outline a few weeks or months of a program that will work, and I appreciate your help in clarifying things.