Augustus F-N
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Hello,
I've been reading a great deal about snatches and their cost-benefit. In particular here:
The consensus appears to be that the snatch has benefits over the swing: an impressive WTH effect on pull up numbers, greater upper body work, greater grip work, greater metabolic demand, and a clearer end point for testing reps in a given time frame. But many have understandable misgivings about the lift: it is more technically demanding, and there is perhaps a greater potential for injury. The dilemma raises the question in my mind, is the high pull underrated/underappreciated?
I've searched the blog, the forum and the training logs - a few people appear to use the high pull and mostly as a transition towards the snatch, only occasionally as an exercise in its own right. I was wondering:
Cheers
Augustus
I've been reading a great deal about snatches and their cost-benefit. In particular here:
12-Week TNT TSC Training Program | StrongFirst
Swing Versus Snatch | StrongFirst
Swing vs snatch practical experiences and what the hell effects, etc.
Why do we train the snatch?
Swing Versus Snatch | StrongFirst
Swing vs snatch practical experiences and what the hell effects, etc.
Why do we train the snatch?
The consensus appears to be that the snatch has benefits over the swing: an impressive WTH effect on pull up numbers, greater upper body work, greater grip work, greater metabolic demand, and a clearer end point for testing reps in a given time frame. But many have understandable misgivings about the lift: it is more technically demanding, and there is perhaps a greater potential for injury. The dilemma raises the question in my mind, is the high pull underrated/underappreciated?
I've searched the blog, the forum and the training logs - a few people appear to use the high pull and mostly as a transition towards the snatch, only occasionally as an exercise in its own right. I was wondering:
1. Do you think a high pull could have the same carry over to pull ups as a snatch?
Could it maintain pull ups if not increase them? Or does the bell need to go through the lockout over head (as in a snatch) to benefit pull ups?
2. What way do you recommend performing the high pull?
There appear to be two versions: a high elbow, where you pull aggressively at the top of a swing, almost like a face pull, then push the bell back forward into the downswing. This seems to be the most common; and it is the one described in ETK. And a (newer?) low elbow version, which I have seen called a T-rex high pull or a subtle high pull, but for which I haven't been able to find a video or a photo, and which I'm struggling to visualise. Do you think one method would benefit pull ups more than the other?
I'd be thankful for hearing all your opinions! Could it maintain pull ups if not increase them? Or does the bell need to go through the lockout over head (as in a snatch) to benefit pull ups?
2. What way do you recommend performing the high pull?
There appear to be two versions: a high elbow, where you pull aggressively at the top of a swing, almost like a face pull, then push the bell back forward into the downswing. This seems to be the most common; and it is the one described in ETK. And a (newer?) low elbow version, which I have seen called a T-rex high pull or a subtle high pull, but for which I haven't been able to find a video or a photo, and which I'm struggling to visualise. Do you think one method would benefit pull ups more than the other?
Cheers
Augustus