For quoting, you can highlight a block of text and there should be a little pop up that allows you to quote or reply. If you click or tap quote, you can go down to the response box and there's a button to insert quotes. It will show you everything you have selected to quote and give you the option to remove or insert. If I want to break quotes up in the multiple things I'll just highlight each block or chunk of text I want to address separately, insert them all and then type my responses up in between them.
It is misinformation, I’m saying shut up and do it until you have evidence it’s not. That would in this case be anecdotal success. Do I think he can make that success? No, but if he did then I would be forced to re evaluate and accept the legitimacy. Nutrition is gray enough there is still a lot of “bro fitness” that can occur and success might occur for a million different factors and not the machinations that are thought to have caused it.
I'm glad that you've said more, but I don't think it forces you to do anything other than to say "Good for you. You've proven that whatever you've done worked for you regardless of how it actually worked." It's an N=1, and the only difference between that and many other anecdotes you may find validating that approach is that you've interacted with this person directly.
Humans do, but they do so with context and this is a forum where people come to learn from people who speak for authority and experience. If he is presented as someone knows what they are talking about and people discuss with him as a peer, that changes how they view what he said.
I think I'm following you here. I believe what you're saying is there's a difference between interacting with someone who's seen as an authority vs a peer who may have personal experience. Many people are peers on this forum and are perceived as such by each other or at least that is the context I've been operating from. Most of the people are peers in that sense. I'd say two types of people may adopt the approach he's taken: folks that already inclined to believe it are interested in it or folks that have tried different approaches with no success.
There are people here who are trained in nutrition and have commented (you included), so that information should be given good weight. Plenty of folks that have interacted on this thread that have expressed differing sets of anecdotes or researched information so there's something to be said about a community providing multiple view points on the same subject.
Obesity is quite possibly the largest health crisis in the western world and the amount of deliberate misinformation should disgust us all.
I'm not totally sure what qualifies as misinformation here, but I will agree that there's a lot of pop culture that surrounds it and it's been heavily monetized. This disease of Western civilization has also been normalized as something positive. I get what you are saying, however I don't think there's been any deliberate misleading of anything here.
Without touching the economic driven misinformation; there is a large issue where that misinformation is used to shift the responsibility of one’s own health away from that individual, by doing things like claiming others are metabolically privileged , they are predisposed to be 700 pounds or calorie restriction doesn’t work (all were in this post).
"Metabolically privileged" seems to be the trigger phrase, and if that was the end of the statement, then I think you could make a case the individual is not taking appropriate responsibility for their own health. Based on what I've read on this thread,
@Adachi appears to be taking ownership of making changes to drive the changes needed, and his efforts in the past of using the conventional CICO did not work. He's not at the end goal but he's making good progress in that direction.
I think you can dispute the mechanisms for change. Perhaps whatever is being done actually ends up as CICO, but framing it up differently allows created changes in behavior that lead to it. I/We don't know what the actual energy intake and expenditure are. Precision Nutrition talks about somatotypes and some guidelines around eating strategies around each. I believe there have been studies that seem to debunk it, but the model itself has been useful to promote change.
His acceptance came after three posts of mine, the one before it is the one where he claimed he had a power body and then purposefully misled by showing a picture of him young and just his back. I can’t see how that post wasnt intentionally misleading as to his body type which is why I responded as bluntly as I did.
Alright. I won't push back on this anymore, because I may have missed it somewhere. I still don't know that being so blunt is necessary to get whatever response would satisfy you.
I don't live inside your mind, but it seemed like you had mentally categorized what the OP said as misinformation from the get go and the fact that he isn't yet in the normal range for BMI or other measurements was subordinate to that opinion.
I have no problem with you and I appreciate that you are passionate about getting people healthy. We can interact further via PM if you wish, but I think we've probably reached the limits of this particular discussion on this thread.