jmmiller41385
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Hello All,
This is my first post here. I apologize, it is a bit long but I get excited about talking about training. I have been training kettlebells strictly for a little over a year to augment BJJ training. I am a 38 year old male. I weigh about 265 pounds. I started with simple and sinister with a 35lb kb. I moved on to 10000 swings after a couple of months with a 53lb kb. When I completed that I started looking into some programs. I needed something with some linear progression to help with focus. The open-ended format of Simple and Sinister was difficult with my ADHD brain to be motivated with. This was a me problem obviously not a program problem. In looking for a program I found Geoff Neuperts work and started the Giant program. It took some time for me to get caught up with the volume but I loved it. This type of AMRAP program helped my jiu jitsu tremendously. I finished that program and I was really excited to have been able to finish it completely and found this type of program with the work lined out to be very helpful in keeping me motivated and consistent. After finishing the Giant I purchased Neuperts Kettlebell Max. I have about two weeks left on this program. I have been using 2x53s for clean and press and front squat, and 1x35 for snatches. I am averaging about 150-170 reps on the clean and press and front squat days that are 30 minute sessions and just hit 400 reps in the snatch on the 20 minute snatch days. I am looking forward to testing my rep max with the 53's.
I have been training 3 days a week rather than the prescribed four. Through trial and error I have landed on this split. I have been able to train 3 days a weeks consistently this entire time. With family and work commitments it has worked best. I plan to continue this moving forward.
This summer I had an opportunity to compete in a highland games event and was exposed to stone lifting and strongman type events. I now have several natural stones and a sandbag. I am looking to try and reconfigure my training a bit to help with these events. I have been currently been doing kettlebells in the mornings before work, doing any stonelifting after work in the afternoons but there has been no real rhyme or reason to what I have been doing.
In considering what to do after KB Max, for kettlebells I am thinking after I retest my rep max at the end of kettlebell max that I will restart the original Giant program all over with my new rep maxs for 20 minute sessions. The thought has crossed my mind to buy a new program but I am almost certain that that would not be necessary. I may sometimes get caught up in the new and shiny.
I got Neupert's bolt on barbell program and I am considering training 5/3/1 in the afternoons two days a weeks, doing deadlift and overhead press. I figure I will trade out squat for deadlift every other cycle. The third day of training I might throw in some stone lifting of some other kind of strongman/ throws event training. Jiu Jitsu is getting put on the back burner to a degree at this point. I will probably attend open mat sessions on a feel basis.
All this said, I have a couple questions. First, does this sound reasonable? After having written this all out it sounds like a pretty tall order. At the end of the day I am not willing to give up the conditioning that kettlebells have provided me. They have changed my body composition and I am as strong as I have ever been in the last 10 years since having kids. On the other hand I have been bitten by the iron game once again and would like to throw some barbell movement in there for old time sake just to see what I am capable of.
Second, does anyone recommend any throws/ stonelifting books or information? I know Matt Vincent had a book that I have not read. I have heard that the programming is very similar to 5/3/1 which I have some experience with.
Thanks for reading to the end. I realize this is a long post. As I mentioned before I get excited talking about training. I appreciate any and all feedback ahead of time. Thanks.
This is my first post here. I apologize, it is a bit long but I get excited about talking about training. I have been training kettlebells strictly for a little over a year to augment BJJ training. I am a 38 year old male. I weigh about 265 pounds. I started with simple and sinister with a 35lb kb. I moved on to 10000 swings after a couple of months with a 53lb kb. When I completed that I started looking into some programs. I needed something with some linear progression to help with focus. The open-ended format of Simple and Sinister was difficult with my ADHD brain to be motivated with. This was a me problem obviously not a program problem. In looking for a program I found Geoff Neuperts work and started the Giant program. It took some time for me to get caught up with the volume but I loved it. This type of AMRAP program helped my jiu jitsu tremendously. I finished that program and I was really excited to have been able to finish it completely and found this type of program with the work lined out to be very helpful in keeping me motivated and consistent. After finishing the Giant I purchased Neuperts Kettlebell Max. I have about two weeks left on this program. I have been using 2x53s for clean and press and front squat, and 1x35 for snatches. I am averaging about 150-170 reps on the clean and press and front squat days that are 30 minute sessions and just hit 400 reps in the snatch on the 20 minute snatch days. I am looking forward to testing my rep max with the 53's.
I have been training 3 days a week rather than the prescribed four. Through trial and error I have landed on this split. I have been able to train 3 days a weeks consistently this entire time. With family and work commitments it has worked best. I plan to continue this moving forward.
This summer I had an opportunity to compete in a highland games event and was exposed to stone lifting and strongman type events. I now have several natural stones and a sandbag. I am looking to try and reconfigure my training a bit to help with these events. I have been currently been doing kettlebells in the mornings before work, doing any stonelifting after work in the afternoons but there has been no real rhyme or reason to what I have been doing.
In considering what to do after KB Max, for kettlebells I am thinking after I retest my rep max at the end of kettlebell max that I will restart the original Giant program all over with my new rep maxs for 20 minute sessions. The thought has crossed my mind to buy a new program but I am almost certain that that would not be necessary. I may sometimes get caught up in the new and shiny.
I got Neupert's bolt on barbell program and I am considering training 5/3/1 in the afternoons two days a weeks, doing deadlift and overhead press. I figure I will trade out squat for deadlift every other cycle. The third day of training I might throw in some stone lifting of some other kind of strongman/ throws event training. Jiu Jitsu is getting put on the back burner to a degree at this point. I will probably attend open mat sessions on a feel basis.
All this said, I have a couple questions. First, does this sound reasonable? After having written this all out it sounds like a pretty tall order. At the end of the day I am not willing to give up the conditioning that kettlebells have provided me. They have changed my body composition and I am as strong as I have ever been in the last 10 years since having kids. On the other hand I have been bitten by the iron game once again and would like to throw some barbell movement in there for old time sake just to see what I am capable of.
Second, does anyone recommend any throws/ stonelifting books or information? I know Matt Vincent had a book that I have not read. I have heard that the programming is very similar to 5/3/1 which I have some experience with.
Thanks for reading to the end. I realize this is a long post. As I mentioned before I get excited talking about training. I appreciate any and all feedback ahead of time. Thanks.
Hopefully I'm understanding your goals/desires and am being clear.