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didn't say that, said they can get hit before they realise what's going on.But the idea that judo and similar people who wrestle full power for several hours a week suddenly become sheep in a real fight is amusing.
I mean no disrespect @Kozushi but the start of this post sounds familiar, statements like that smell of inexperience to me. Sorry mate but you sound a lot like the martial artists I mentioned in an earlier post that walk around with a false sense of confidence. I'm sure you've trained in various MA for quite a few years & you sound very knowledgeable on the subject. But when it comes to SD some of the things you've said in some of your posts sound good in theory but don't add up to what I've experienced.I don't want to say too much about the street fights, but I've found street fights very easy to win.
I totally agree with what you said about the importance of simple striking skills and of simply put: sadism, and also that anyone with a good punch is a deadly weapon. I think these are very important for real life encounters. I've definitely found untrained mean people though to be pretty useless, but not that I have been involved in enough self-defence situations to have a good sampling for statistical purposes! Now, a big exception was a bouncer I trained with once, and I'd say what he had learned from practical experience in bars was much better than what I could do. For instance, he trained in constantly pushing the guy's front away from him to the ground to make sure he couldn't do anything. This is more practical than the kind of wrestling training we do where we throw people (for safety reasons obviously) to their backs.
But the idea that judo and similar people who wrestle full power for several hours a week suddenly become sheep in a real fight is amusing.
My current judo coach was a bouncer in a well known local biker bar for over 20 years, hehehe.
"Not that I've been involved in enough SD situations to have a good sampling for statistical purposes" this statement explains your first paragraph.
I understand that regular full contact sparring can give you self confidence especially if you do well, but it really is just a form of theory to the real thing. If you put 2 mma fighters in a cage & tell them to fight NHB & no rules you'll see a fight, put same 2 mma fighters in a cage & tell them the loser gets a bullet to the head you'll see a very different kind of fight. True fear & desperation can't be theorised or truly simulated.
Real life dangerous people don't often look like a trained up Van Damme, they usually look like Joe Pesci's character from the "Goodfellas", never trained a day in their life but they'll end yours in a heartbeat.