GeoffWai
Level 4 Valued Member
So I am not trying to be lacking focus and jump around different programs (no pun intended )
I have in other parts of the forum posted my current progress on ROP, trying to adapt it as I grow along my practice.
This is more a discussion to equip myself with the understanding for how to structure future plans / growth...
So I know a lot of Pavel's philosophy applies to combat sports, and a lot of us here that works with KBs got started from a combat sport and then into KBs...
I did not come from that route and I actually found Pavel's books, read them and just clicked with me on the style and philosophy (read some Dan John as well...)
Obviously everyone should be striving for GPP, and there's a lot of modality to choose from. What I really want to say is I find it difficult sometimes to try to connect the dots with actual sports application when I try to find articles or forum posts... I understand that having proper hip hinge, endurance, and proper form for power transfer, it can signifcantly improve how one jumps, runs, etc... but I think that is so wrapped within the science and a deep understanding of the mechanics of KB exercise, it's not always immediate evident.
So as I travel down my ROP path, I'm looking forward to:
1. Trying to get back into some basketball; starting with basic drills, shooting, some conditioing... doing this on variety days of my ROP
2. Looking for what's next... do I go back to cycles of S&S / PTTP and then rotate back to ROP until i hit the goals?
3. I understand it will take time, but does Double KB exercises have broader sports application... but seems everyone is hesitant on ROTK... do STRONG! ? Other programs on the app?
4. I've read Jump Attack by Tim Grover (Michael Jordan's trainer) a while ago. I see very specific plyometrics that improves the bounding and reactive side of jump mechanics, and recently I looked at a lot of so called jump programs online... I must admit with all the different factions dissing each other... sounding more like "snake oil"... and the programs are just putting together what we know... I don't find any epiphanies...
So then I found the only jump article... Pavel on GtG Jump training. Yes, I understand the philosophy... now how do I apply it???
Thoughts...
A) I am unable to add pull-ups between ladders of my ROP Pushes... since I do a 3min rest between ladders... was thinking of doing 1min of jump ropes in that 3 min rest...
B) I stopped reading Q&D when in the preface Pavel warned about it being more advanced... and I am not... but from what I understand it develops some explosiveness, and the ability to master pistols is something that entices me about jump training correlations...
C) Scour the internet for jump related plyos type exercise to do my ROP variety days...
D) Find more things to do when this cycle of ROP is done, things that works well with S&S / PTTP
In the GtG Jump article Pavel did warn, get balanced, get symmetric first.
I guess at the end this is more a "what does everyone think" kind of post....
Thanks!
I have in other parts of the forum posted my current progress on ROP, trying to adapt it as I grow along my practice.
This is more a discussion to equip myself with the understanding for how to structure future plans / growth...
So I know a lot of Pavel's philosophy applies to combat sports, and a lot of us here that works with KBs got started from a combat sport and then into KBs...
I did not come from that route and I actually found Pavel's books, read them and just clicked with me on the style and philosophy (read some Dan John as well...)
Obviously everyone should be striving for GPP, and there's a lot of modality to choose from. What I really want to say is I find it difficult sometimes to try to connect the dots with actual sports application when I try to find articles or forum posts... I understand that having proper hip hinge, endurance, and proper form for power transfer, it can signifcantly improve how one jumps, runs, etc... but I think that is so wrapped within the science and a deep understanding of the mechanics of KB exercise, it's not always immediate evident.
So as I travel down my ROP path, I'm looking forward to:
1. Trying to get back into some basketball; starting with basic drills, shooting, some conditioing... doing this on variety days of my ROP
2. Looking for what's next... do I go back to cycles of S&S / PTTP and then rotate back to ROP until i hit the goals?
3. I understand it will take time, but does Double KB exercises have broader sports application... but seems everyone is hesitant on ROTK... do STRONG! ? Other programs on the app?
4. I've read Jump Attack by Tim Grover (Michael Jordan's trainer) a while ago. I see very specific plyometrics that improves the bounding and reactive side of jump mechanics, and recently I looked at a lot of so called jump programs online... I must admit with all the different factions dissing each other... sounding more like "snake oil"... and the programs are just putting together what we know... I don't find any epiphanies...
So then I found the only jump article... Pavel on GtG Jump training. Yes, I understand the philosophy... now how do I apply it???
Thoughts...
A) I am unable to add pull-ups between ladders of my ROP Pushes... since I do a 3min rest between ladders... was thinking of doing 1min of jump ropes in that 3 min rest...
B) I stopped reading Q&D when in the preface Pavel warned about it being more advanced... and I am not... but from what I understand it develops some explosiveness, and the ability to master pistols is something that entices me about jump training correlations...
C) Scour the internet for jump related plyos type exercise to do my ROP variety days...
D) Find more things to do when this cycle of ROP is done, things that works well with S&S / PTTP
In the GtG Jump article Pavel did warn, get balanced, get symmetric first.
I guess at the end this is more a "what does everyone think" kind of post....
Thanks!