Yes, a great summary in the article quoted:Swing Versus Snatch | StrongFirst
When it comes to swing versus snatch, which should you be doing and why? Let's break it down by goal and muscle group.www.strongfirst.com
Q&D is focused on the energy systems development, with all the other benefits coming along for the ride.Pavel's discussion of the snatch in Q&D seems to paint it in a more favorable light than does the referenced article.
The answer is: do both!Just pointing out that the list in the article is not completely comprehensive for someone looking to choose between the two.
Hi;Apologies if this reads as an uninformed question from a newb, but what do you guys believe to be the benefits of snatches over swings?
Just to make it a bit more clear; 3 months ago, I thought I was swinging 16 kg one handed.Hi;
If you are new to hardstyle KB swing; it is a move that takes time to polish; and I think, one should not jump to Snatch training before reaching out to a certain level of expertise in KB hardstyle.
Again, everyone is different, my over head shoulder mobility is so pathetic ( there is some improvement after months of dedicated work) snatch looks impossible to me w good form.
Though I have to admit that, when I first encountered the SF world, I went to my gym, and happily did snatches, thinking that I can do them. But once I deep dive in to details of the forms of exercises I have started to like to learning path for the best form possible for me.
Hope this makes sense.
This is a big perk when traveling. I can do a snatch session in most gyms, because if they have kettlebells, they have a 24kg or 50lb ‘bell. Finding a 32+kg bell for swings is harder.I can’t remember where I saw it, but just recently I read a short article from Pavel that listed another benefit of snatches that you can continue to work on power with a lighter weight than with swings do if you don’t have access to heavier bells that may dictate which one you choose.
Hi Ryan;Another hat tip to Q&D is, not only does it provide parameters for 2hsw/pushup and snatch only protocols but also ways to combine them weekly via random dice rolls. Still working energy systems and varying the stimulus.
From a more A+A perspective, I'm a huge fan of repeats of heavy snatches with heavier 2hsw.
Don't be afraid of periodization or cycling. The deep 6 is a great toolkit. Depending on your life and goals, different tools used a different times will keep things fresh and interesting and move the needle of certain attributes of physical development. As strength is sticky and there's almost a ballistic component to training, you raise the baseline of certain areas and maintain progress in others.
Life long pursuit...
I like both. But if I had to choose, I'd go with snatch. I feel that A+A style snatches cover a lot of bases, given you're using an adequately heavy bell. But why choose between the two?Just pointing out that the list in the article is not completely comprehensive for someone looking to choose between the two.
Yes, a great summary in the article quoted:
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One note regarding an "update" to the article is that these days, StrongFirst teaches the snatch a little differently than in years past, and now considers it a "clean that ends up overhead" instead of a "swing that ends up overhead."