RichJ
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The Game Changers Movie interesting documentary - on itunes.
The Game Changers Movie interesting documentary - on itunes.
Yeah agree but seems to be well on it's way to becoming "a thing" so might be interesting to see what all the noise is about. I haven't seen much of the debunking material but will be very interested to read when it becomes more widely distributed. 'The Perfect Human Diet' next on the watch list.Lots of info from the trailer of documentary has been debunked even before the release of the documentary.
I have many vegan and vegetarian friends - respect! - but this is imho not the way to go.
By looking at nutrition habits of various ethnic and cultural groups - from exclusively vegetarian to exclusively carnivore - I think it becomes pretty obvious that there is no best way to eat.
The key to health in my opinion is calorie balance. In simple terms, eating less is better. That's 80%, not plant based. The rest is contextual.
I don't have the time and energy to get into serious research, but I based on published data I believe that any claimed dietary benefit of every eating style (including Okinawan or Mediterranean) is reduction in caloric intake. There are plenty of anecdotal evidence and a few studies demonstrating this point of view.
I wonder what the minimum effective dose of animal products is required. The typical recommendation of 2 grams of protein per day sounds very excessive to me, and difficult to achieve if not using artificial methods.The injury rate (including career enders) among the athletes featured is pretty interesting. I'm all for sticking to your principles, but it does seem that there is a certain amount of animal products needed to optimize athletic potential. There are a few vegan athletes with good records (Scott Jurek comes to mind), but most of them follow a pretty standard pattern. They eat animal products during their growth years, go vegan, and then a year or two later they either get injured or just can't maintain their performance. The human metabolism is amazingly flexible, but there does seem to be a limit, especially when we're discussing high level athletics.
It’s doable (and comfortable) if you’re going for 2g per kilogram per day, less so if you’re going for 2g per pound. But no one is recommending the latter anyway.I wonder what the minimum effective dose of animal products is required. The typical recommendation of 2 grams of protein per day sounds very excessive to me, and difficult to achieve if not using artificial methods.
Good question. I would tend to agree that 2 grams/kilo of BW per day is probably more than an average Joe/Jane needs, but I think a lot of it depends on how hard you're working. For an athlete who's working hard and consuming 5,000 calories a day, 2 grams of protein per kilo of bodyweight is a pretty easy number to hit. For a fairly sedentary individual who only consumes 2,000 calories a day, it might be a little more difficult, and not really necessary.I wonder what the minimum effective dose of animal products is required. The typical recommendation of 2 grams of protein per day sounds very excessive to me, and difficult to achieve if not using artificial methods.
I wonder what the minimum effective dose of animal products is required.
It suggests that the minimum dose of protein for an older individual, in order to mitigate sarcopenia, is 1.4 grams/kg BW/day, spread out over 3 meals so they get 0.4-0.6 grams/ kg BW/meal.
So if you want to stay lean and keep your muscle ditch the fasting.
So if you want to stay lean and keep your muscle ditch the fasting.
Steve, that would certainly comply with the undereating concept of the warrior diet, but how about the idea of eating raw natural food during the day?A fine compromise, a Warrior Diet-like compromise, if you will, is having a protein bar in place of breakfast, and another in place of lunch. There are bars that are around 200 calories, around 20 grams of protein, relatively low in carbs and high in good fats. IMHO, 200 calories doth not a meal make, and the WD approach is to undereat, not fast, which I have always interpreted as having a "little something" that doesn't feel like a meal.
-S-