Packman - I came to S&S as a simple programme to fit in with what was a very busy period of doing some intense renovation on a property. Fat loss for me was of no concern - I had been the same weight, size for a couple of years after a period of fat loss and regular, albeit, random training. I lost 9 lb, despite eating like a ravenous zombie flesh eater. Had to buy new jeans. I'm not a big guy at all, very average, large/medium shirts t shirts and had been a 34 inch jeans waist for most of adult life, slightly bulging one before I lost weight in the previous couple of years. My jeans are now at 32, medium t shirts make me me look like I'm having a bit of a mid life sexual awakening crisis, kind of cringy to my teenagers which I find embarrassing and proud at depending on the circumstances! I'm 51 and am approx the same weight now as I was before S&S, so lost 9 lb and put it all back on again as muscle. My back feels like it is someone else's, as if I'm wearing some protective shield. I guess if you want to get strong then muscle comes into the situation but it is unintended, in a way, welcome though it is, size and mass are not on my radar. I've never put on muscle. Even as a strong athletic kid, I looked puny and whilst I've always been athletic-ish most of my life, I look like an athlete now at my age even. Weird stuff happens with the 32. My diet hasn't changed, I eat light in the day and like a pig in the evening. Mostly good food with the odd diversion, it is odd though ie huge tub of ice cream at the theatre (darling) last night and I'm gluten free. Get your diet right and S&S is what you make it, fat loss, yes, muscle gain, yes, athleticism, yes, youth and vigour, yes but body comp is diet, mostly, if you get it right, for you.
Enjoy the journey, a masterful Pavelian programme. I've learned so much from it and it has given a lot back in return. For the record, I'm about 170lbs or so, 5'10, 10/12% fat as measured by probably unreliable plastic calipers nipping at just above my hip bone. Dodgy Measurements or not, my jeans are 32, like they were when I was 21 when I was strong and fast, in my prime. Either way, calipers or not, I'm lean.Anything is possible with S&S. There are many side effects that are not printed on the prescription label of S&S, a new wardrobe is one of them.