AceecA
Level 3 Valued Member
Nick, i'm going to assume you're replying to me (actually kind of excited to discuss this, i'm just in the mood, if you know what i mean).
in any case, i disagree with the scientists view. And i agree that emperical evidence is essential for making decisions in our lives. You used emperical evidence to support your view (which i agree with) that depending on ones genetics, a person can get to a muscular weight over 200lbs.
my point was that scientist stated his position with points (doesn't make him right, its just how you set up an position), the correct way to disagree is with your our points or counterpoints (Which you did in your second to last post).
now, the nazis said the jews were an inferior race, this doesn't make it true, it's just a statement. Its easily refuted (this is just clearly presenting the reason why you don't believe the statement), they have the same dna, there were many wealthy jews, showing an advanced intellect and drive compared to those around them, etc... This is how you refute a statement you disagree with, with proofs.
there is a strategy when dealing with different opinions (you will see this all around you) it says "if you can't attack a mans logic, attack the man" which is to say, if you can't refute what he's saying, defame his character so that no one will listen to him.
This is what i hate seeing (now granted, i could easily just skip over this post and it wouldn't matter, but like i said, i'm just in a mood) then he is defending himself instead of anyone really discussing the topic at hand. And its impossible to defend yourself over a forum, so then you have all the self righteous posters condemning him for his arrogance (because he defended himself) and labeling him with terms (like Troll, which i can't stand) that will associated him in readers minds as someone who is trying to cause turmoil (i hate labels), which he didn't do.
If someone doesn't agree with his points, post counterpoints (which you did). If you (all self righteous posters insert your name here) don't have the ability to articulate your disagreement with his position, Do Not take your inability as license to disrespect, condemn, or tell another poster what beliefs they have to have. you are not a totalitarian ruler and self righteousness isn't a excuse for disrespect.
One more thing, please don't tell him that he's the one being disrespectful (you can tell me that i am, but remember, i didn't start posting to discuss the topic, i started posting in response to an on going argument. Quid pro quo...
(thank you again for the opportunity to express myself)
in any case, i disagree with the scientists view. And i agree that emperical evidence is essential for making decisions in our lives. You used emperical evidence to support your view (which i agree with) that depending on ones genetics, a person can get to a muscular weight over 200lbs.
my point was that scientist stated his position with points (doesn't make him right, its just how you set up an position), the correct way to disagree is with your our points or counterpoints (Which you did in your second to last post).
now, the nazis said the jews were an inferior race, this doesn't make it true, it's just a statement. Its easily refuted (this is just clearly presenting the reason why you don't believe the statement), they have the same dna, there were many wealthy jews, showing an advanced intellect and drive compared to those around them, etc... This is how you refute a statement you disagree with, with proofs.
there is a strategy when dealing with different opinions (you will see this all around you) it says "if you can't attack a mans logic, attack the man" which is to say, if you can't refute what he's saying, defame his character so that no one will listen to him.
This is what i hate seeing (now granted, i could easily just skip over this post and it wouldn't matter, but like i said, i'm just in a mood) then he is defending himself instead of anyone really discussing the topic at hand. And its impossible to defend yourself over a forum, so then you have all the self righteous posters condemning him for his arrogance (because he defended himself) and labeling him with terms (like Troll, which i can't stand) that will associated him in readers minds as someone who is trying to cause turmoil (i hate labels), which he didn't do.
If someone doesn't agree with his points, post counterpoints (which you did). If you (all self righteous posters insert your name here) don't have the ability to articulate your disagreement with his position, Do Not take your inability as license to disrespect, condemn, or tell another poster what beliefs they have to have. you are not a totalitarian ruler and self righteousness isn't a excuse for disrespect.
One more thing, please don't tell him that he's the one being disrespectful (you can tell me that i am, but remember, i didn't start posting to discuss the topic, i started posting in response to an on going argument. Quid pro quo...
(thank you again for the opportunity to express myself)