Vodka and Pickles 2x/Week - Looking for Input

Discussion in 'Barbell' started by FlatbushAve, Feb 11, 2019 at 9:50 PM.

  1. FlatbushAve

    FlatbushAve Second Post

    Hi All,

    Long time reader, first time poster. I recently came across Pavel's excellent Vodka and Pickles article (Kettlebells and Deadlifts Go Together Like Vodka and Pickles | StrongFirst) and have been enjoying the results - especially since my main goal is deadlifting. Because of work, family, BJJ, life, etc. I can only hit the gym twice per week, but have found the program to be pretty good at adapting to that schedule. My question for the group is: where would you think to add additional exercises? Specifically, overhead press, rows/pull-ups, maybe bench. Here's what I've come up with so far, but haven't tested it long enough to see if the volume is going to impact recovery:

    Day 1:
    Deadlift - workout 1, as prescribed in the article
    BB Front Squats - 5x5, as prescribed in the article
    Bench
    Chins

    Day 2:
    Deadlift - workout 2, as prescribed
    Swings - as prescribed
    Overhead Press
    Rows

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. Reece langham

    Reece langham First Timer

    Hi Flatbush ave
    If your not struggling with the recovery keep it up but always have a minimum workout to fall back on for when times get hectic and recovery becomes harder. I’d resort to power to the people the press and deadlift. If you want to add extra I’d gtg on e.g pullups. Always keep you body fresh especially doing bjj
     
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  3. FlatbushAve

    FlatbushAve Second Post

    Thanks a lot, Reece. I like the idea of a minimum workout to fall back on. Looking over what I proposed, it definitely reads like too much volume, especially in the later weeks of the program. I had to remind myself that the goal of the next 8-12 weeks is deadlift, not hitting new PRs on bench, press, etc. I'll post my progress after another few weeks in case anyone is interested.
     
  4. hammor

    hammor Double-Digit Post Count Certified Instructor

    Just finished reading the same article myself.

    Do you have access to kettlebells at the gym? I would suggest to add some swings like the article had suggested after your DL.
     
  5. Steve Freides

    Steve Freides Dir. of Community Engagement Staff Member Senior Instructor

  6. ShawnM

    ShawnM Quadruple-Digit Post Count

    @FlatbushAve - I ran through Vodka And Pickles the last three months of 2018 and loved it. I think you are on the right path and like how you are using both vertical and horizontal pressing and pushing. If you have access to a TRX they are great for your horizontal pulling and to assist with BJJ you can run towels through the handles for added grip strength and to simulate the Gi. I would keep things just the way you have it set up and if you drop the assistance work to 3 x 5r you could probably get away with the squat and swing both days just alternate between light and heavy for both movements.
     

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