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Wow - impressive to say the least
 
Oh yeah and it was after 135 jerks with double 32's
 
Denisov is a beast. He's like the Lance Armstrong of kettlebell sport- he just keeps winning and setting records.  Which leads me to a question- is he like Lance Armstrong in any other ways?  Are these events drug tested?
 
This is the most kettlebell feat I think I've seen on youtube.  Just ridiculous.  I think my all time record with a 70 was 15 before a hand switch and my legs were jello and my grip was hanging on for dear life at the end.    Awesome stuff
 
I remember I was ecstatic when I finally completed the 5 minute with a 24 only to read of his 730 snatches with the same weight without putting the bell down and only onehand switch. A real impressive performer!

 

 

 

 
 
Yes, I know enough to bet that he's the, um, "Lance Armstrong" of kettlebells.  Talent, hard work, smarts, guts, and specialization all goes into it as well.  Still awesome.
 
its amazing what the human body is capable of.  i just got back into snatches after a few months off due to injury. so last night i was going back and forth with a 24, 50swings then 20 snatches, 5 sets.  i had to break the snatches into 5 switch, 3 switch 2 for the last two sets just to complete it without the bell flying out of my hand.  this video is an incredible display of ballistic conditioning - inspiring to say the least.
 
This isn't the purpose of the post, but since you show an awesome display, I think that GS type training would be fun.  I was looking at other examples of GS competitors.  It ia amazing to me what some of these guys are capable of.  A lot of them do not possess physiques that would suggest tremendous strength or fitness.  I would imagine that if all a guy did was train GS style, that he would be stronger than he looked and be in pretty good shape.  But, I can't help but wonder if adding TGUs, and maybe pistols, would turn it into a more all around training program.
 
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This isn’t the purpose of the post, but since you show an awesome display, I think that GS type training would be fun.  I was looking at other examples of GS competitors.  It ia amazing to me what some of these guys are capable of.  A lot of them do not possess physiques that would suggest tremendous strength or fitness.  I would imagine that if all a guy did was train GS style, that he would be stronger than he looked and be in pretty good shape.  But, I can’t help but wonder if adding TGUs, and maybe pistols, would turn it into a more all around training program."

"Fun" might not be the right term.  One of the first US Masters of Sport, Cate Imes, called it "getting comfortable with discomfort".  If you train 10 minute sets, it's not a pleasant experience.  But it is fun being strong.  That said, a lot of the top GS athletes also demonstrate many other athletic qualities.  Sergey Rudnev is a beast at bodyweight exercises like pistols and muscle ups.  Fedorenko has run a marathon, if I'm not mistaken, and Denisov holds a world ranking in powerlifting.  Most GS athletes don't do just GS.

In Pavel's first KB book, Russian Kettlebell Challenge, he discusses some Russian tests which indicate that proficiency in GS carries over to a wide range of athletic tests, including running, broad jumps, pullups, etc.
 
I haven't run for years, but a few times a week I would run five miles in thirty minutes.  Not world class by any stretch of the imagination, but I would definitely feel it in my chest.  And to me it was fun.    This looks like it would be a total body type exercise that would give me that same sensation, but would develop more overall strength.  I am not ready for GS right now.  I am easing into the PM to work a few kinks out.  But once I get cooking on the PM I very we'll might give GS a try.  GS with TGUs, pistols, and mobility work might be something I could age gracefully with.

What do you think of this guy:  http://www.groundfighter.com/Denis-Kanygin/

 

 

 
 
"Most GS athletes don't just do GS"

^ This.

The furthest I've gone into GS is one arm swings and long cycle with GS form for long timed sets; so my experience is pretty limited (I would like to get more serious at some point); but I read a quote somewhere that 'GS is essentially time-compressed manual labor' and that makes sense. It's comparable to something like cycling or rowing or speedskating, a high resistance endurance competition.

Anyway, the thing is that once you've spent a few years doing it it's apparently pretty easy to recover from. After all it's mostly ballistic movements with a big focus on endurance, and work capacity for those kinda movements in your hands, legs and low back are pretty much unlimited if you build up gradually. So a lot of GS athletes do other stuff on their free time. Denisov has done marathons and triathlons, Denis Vasiliev was a competitive armwrestler and powerlifter, Igor Morozov was a powerlifter, Sergei Rachinskiy set several world endurance records (I think he squatted 176x520 reps in an hour or something), Oleh Ilika does a lot of combat training, and did powerlifting and olympic weightlifting competitively. If someone 'just did GS' they'd probably look like an average guy, but pretty lean and with incredible grip strength and general endurance. Sergei Merkulin basically 'just does GS':

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/383930_374786589257873_1653876408_n.jpg

That's merkulin on the right and alexander khostov (who also 'just does GS') on the left. Denis Vasiliev is in the middle, I think he's gone 450/350/500+ in powerlifting competition, and also squatted 100kg x100 reps. He weighs about 80kg and is a long cycle specialist:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adJCFSFXhWo

He's done 50 reps in under 10.00 with a pair of 40s in training and something like 90 reps with 32s in 10.00 in competition.

The point is, GS alone won't give you strength in, say, strict presses or full squats, but you'd definitely have time to train those things on the side if you wanted to. Plenty of the International-Class masters of sport do a ton of getups and pistols and swings, among other things, as their general training. There was another GS thread a while back where I linked a ton of articles/notes I'd compiled on GS training, if anyone's bored and wants to dig it up....
 
Thanks, Journeyman, for filling in some gaps.  GS has the potential to bring out a number of athletic qualities, and to serve as a conditioning base for some serious strength. 

That said, GS is a sport, and many of these benefits can be attained through training that is similar to GS, but more accessible. For example, Nico Rithner at USA Kettlebell Lifting has developed a format he calls BOLT. GS lifts are used, as well as double half snatches and single clean and jerks.  The time runs from 5 to 10 minutes per lift, depending on the athlete, and athletes can switch hands and put the bell down at will (think secret service snatch test with multiple lifts).  This way, grip endurance and rack endurance do not limit the work that can be done.  Do as many reps in the allotted time as you can using as few hand switches and rest times as you can, but as many as you need.

One hand switch and not putting the bell(s) down is the rule of the sport, but not necessarily the best way to train if you want the physiological benefits of GS.  Viking Warrior Conditioning is another example of this - lots of high rep work can be done because hand switches and rest times are built in.  You don't have to become a grip endurance specialist.

It's like basketball.  You can get a great workout just shooting hoops, without worrying about the rules of the game.
 
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