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Jeffrey

Usually once you are performing a movement with "feed forward" tension it wouldn't be an RS drill

RS is subconscious and subtle

Again if you have a baseline then you can address weak links - mobility, rs etc....

I wouldn't spend too much time on this but get screened and keep training
 
Actually, I got screened and spent 3 months training once per week and then 6 months training twice per week with a SFG2 who is also FMS qualified.  I didn't understand too much more after my 9 months than I did before.  My sole purpose in going to this guy was to address movement issues, and quite frankly feel like it was a waste of time and money.  Water under the bridge now, but I do t have the time nor the inclination to do that again.  I will just train at home and do the best I can.
 
Jeffrey, just as one can ignore correctives when one shouldn't, it's possible to go the other way, too.  It's tough to say more about your situation without knowing the details but that's not the point.   You could always seek out another trainer, or you could, as you say, just train at home and do the best you can.  Please, if you weren't satisfied with the coaching you received, start by letting that person know privately.

Several of our leadership at StrongFirst are also high level FMS people who teach the FMS certifications.  I'm aware of Brett Jones and Phil Scarito.  You might consider contacting one of these people and arranging an in-person FMS at some point in the future, as well as a review of your previous results.

You have reflexive stability in many things already - if you didn't, you couldn't walk across the room.  It's good to understand the concepts, less good to think about them to the exclusion of getting stronger.  A very good thing, IMHO, would be for you to post videos of yourself performing some of the movements you want to train, e.g., your kettlebell getup and swing, and let us give you feedback on what we see.

Best of luck with everything.

-S-
 
Jeffrey,

I second Steve's opinion about the lack of results you obtained and how to proceed.  I've been in your shoes, both as one trying to move better and struggling to find the tools I need, and on the other as a professional working to instruct others to move better.  When I first went through the movement screen in 2010 I scored poorly, today I do far better, including being close to resolving a horrendous shoulder mobility pattern.  I was chronically "stiff" growing up, I have no memories of performing a full deep squat at any point in my life.

The results have come from having access to amazing teachers that changed (and continue to change) my personal and professional practice.  The FMS paradigm works provide you follow the sequence, gain mobility and learn to statically hold and then dynamically move in positions that used to be impossible due to limited mobility.  That being said, I have also had to make A LOT of lifestyle changes to become more leaner, more mobile and stronger, and have had to seek ought professional assistance in fields that one may not immediately think of when trying to move better.

The FMS trainer you worked with may have not provided the best drills, missed some details that prevented results, not removed and added the right movements and lifts, etc.  There are MANY styles and thoughts when it comes to mobilizing and strengthening the body, some work better than others and may not work for someone regardless of how many other people have seen success.

OR, the root issue of your problem may be caused by issues that require therapeutic modalities that you have not tried yet, ones outside the FMS trainer's abilities.  I've only recently began learning more about the fascial system after seeing amazing results in myself and others using the same craniosacral specialist, results that they did not have after working with other good, knowledgeable PT's.  Such hands-on manipulation of your CNS and other soft-tissues may be needed.

Professionally I do the best with the modalities I'm currently trained to use, if I'm not getting results then I refer after a few months to my PT or other specialists that those I trust vouch for as I know I don't have the tools to address the primary issue(s).  Keep searching and you will find the weak link(s) and how to address them, I don't recommend abstaining from coaching and therapeutic work, both are great investments when working with the right individuals.
 
Jeffrey

I do offer on-line training via Skype if you wanted a distance option

 

 
 
I am shopping for a house.  Once I buy a house and get set up with high speed internment, then that might be a viable option.  Would I need a camera in an area that I could step back and demonstrate movements?
 
Jeffrey

using Skype with an IPad or other tablet (even smartphone) usually works very well or Skype with a Laptop etc...
 
Brett, I made an offer on a house a little while ago.  If things progress correctly, I will be closing towards the end of January.
 
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