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I understand that this is primarily a strength training forum but I am hoping that someone might be able to point me in the correct direction.  A couple years ago I discovered the work of Pavel and Dan John.  I followed instruction and trained for strength.  While I have lost over 100lb of scale weight I am still fat, just less fat than I once was.  As a fat guy I can deadlift over 2x BW, press BW, and perform 11  chin-ups.  I understand that there is nothing impressive about those lifts but I do think it is fair to say that lack of strength is not my primary problem.

Nutrition is holding me back.  Online coaching is preferred as my family resides in a rural area.  I am prepared to pay for this service.  Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Thank you for your time

 
 
Cat-

as soneone who used to be obese I ubdersrand the process of improving health and learning to live leaner, you can look at my instrutor page for my before-after. I'd advise you to cease calling yourself "fat." Doing so perpetuates the cycles we must change. No one is "fat," everyone has various levels of bodyfat, and as you noted yours has improved and you're on the path, so updating your software is crucial to continuing to improve. You're stronger than most regarldess of how much you weigh.

is it nutrition knowledge you lack or are you in need of guidance and accountability to navigate the process of changing how you use food (or pseudo-foods) in your life?
 
https://onebyonenutrition.com

I was in Precision Nutrition's Lean Eating program for a year, then continued with Georgie for a year, one of their coaches who went independent and started this program.  It's awesome.  The coaching is habit-based, and you speak on the phone every other week.  There is a social component as well where you can interact with the coaches and other clients online.

Georgie's the s***.  I don't know how else to say it.  She has two ABD Ph.D's in nutrition, is an R.D., currently coaches a few of the athletes on the Canadian olympic teams, and just got approved to sit for the Board Certification as a Specialist in Sports Dietetics (CSSD) examination, which requires proof of 1500 hours of sports nutrition counseling.  She and her team are quality people, super relatable and compassionate, and excellent at what they do.
 
Cat,

Like Zach advised, begin to change your attitude toward yourself.

Second, you need to understand that once a certain threshold of adipose tissue has been created, the game is different.  This threshold is different for everyone, but if you have been "obese" for a period of time, chances are that you have met it.

To simplify, as you gain weight your current adipocytes fill up with trigs.  Once filled, your body needs to create more adipose tissue to house more trigs, which it happily does, in many of us.  When you begin to lose weight, these new cells stick around, but empty out to some extent.  What you are left with, physiologically, is a leaner version of your obese self, which is completely different from someone who has always been lean.  The additional fat cells that still remain interact with your body to keep your body mass higher than what would be normal for you.  This effect seems stronger in subq adoposity as opposed to central adiposity.

What this means is two very important things: 1) most boxed diets plans will not work for you past a certain point; and, 2) you will probably need to trade some strength, and/or at least some muscle mass, to get normally lean.  It is literally trial and error to discover what works for an individual beyond a certain point of leanness.

Now, you may be comfortable with the leanness that you can attain before this trade-off begins, but the chances of you getting normally lean without using a level of calorie restriction that does not support strength is slim.

So the questions are: how heavy were you, and for how long?  When did you first begin to gain?  Whats your current wt/ht/age?  What are you currently doing/have done for nutrition?

I can work with you, if you like.
 
By calling myself fat I did not intend to demeaning. Rather, I am attempting to be brutally honest with myself. More than a decade was spent weighing over 300lb with the delusion that I was at a perfectly reasonable weight. I do see your point and will attempt to correct my attitude.

The weight gain started before puberty. At the age of 16 I weighed 300lb, I topped out at 350 at the age of 28.   I am currently 31 at  236lb. I am 6 feet - 3 inches tall.

When  I began lifting my diet was an attempt at the reasonable.  The basics were followed. Liquid calories, processed carbohydrates, and alcohol was cut out.  I am ashamed to admit there were and still are some eating binges that occur. I moved on to a variety of strategies such as IF, Ketogenic diet, and carb cycling. I still practice IF but there is nothing magic about it. I have gotten leaner than I am currently with ketosis or carb cycling. However that usually leads to binge eating and rebound weight gain.

Accountability is absolutely part of my problem, which is why I am willing to pay someone to look over my should and berate me if needed to stay on track.

 

 
 
You haven't stated your goal? What are you aiming for, 6-pack? If you've already dropped 100lb you know how to lose fat, while a coach may help keep you on track it's ultimately your own discipline that has to be tight. For some people paying someone else works as a discipline enforcer, if that's you than go for it I guess. But if not, keep doing what you've been doing and be patient. Work on refining the problem areas, like the binge eating (that usually comes about as a result of being too restrictive either of food types or calories). Like Al said, figure out what works best for you.
That said, I don't have personal experience with the guy but check out http://rippedbody.jp
 
I think you'd get a lot out of working with One By One.  Really do.  A lot of the folks are people like you who have a lot of experience and some frustration to go along with it.
 
I apologize for being unclear about my goal.  My goal is 10 to 12% body fat so that I can get the most benefit out of cosmetic surgery for loose skin and pubertal gynecomastia.  Yes, I fully understand that I need to get emotional/anxiety eating under control before I undergo any type of surgery. I am hoping an experienced coach can help me with that.
 
I also neglected to mention that my body fat as measured by calipers is 22%. I realize there is a fairly high margin of error considering I measured it myself.
 
Cat-

Ive come into contact with mentors and resources that allowed me to change many behavioral issues, compulsive eating, binge eating, over drinking, "clinical depression," and several others. as you explore your options Id be honored to share the resources I have been given to work on the root of the biochemical desire (or impulse), or whatever one calls the pattern of behavior associated with compulsiveness. Zganska@me.com.
 
Also, I applaud you admitting your challenges to others and asking for help, that step is the hardest and many aren't willing to do so and thus won't experience different outcomes. :)
 
Two things I would recommend:

1) Fat Loss Happens on Monday: Habit-Based Diet & Workout Hacks by Josh Hillis and Dan John (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fat-Loss-Happens-Monday-Habit-Based-ebook/dp/B00PKPTRWM)

2) http://www.twogrand.com/ app on your phone. Just take a picture on your phone of all food you put in your mouth. Works remarkably well for accountability and makes you think twice about eating things that sabotage your goals. In time it will give you a very clear overview of your eating habits. The point is not to judge yourself but to see where you are and where you can improve. It's all about small habits you change for life, not a quick fix.

Both have been useful to me, though I have some way to go myself. I find for myself "I'm getting stronger" can be an excuse for eating too much, so "being leaner, even if a bit less strong" should be my goal now (easier said than done).
 
Cat,

Your signs and symptoms suggest metabolic syndrome.  If you're not happy with your progress elsewhere, I feel confident that I can help you: berto.ciampa@gmail.com
 
Along with all the other options you have here one I found for torching bodyfat was Fasting. I use Eat,Stop,Eat but there are many options.  Power to you!
 
How is metabolic syndrome diagnosed?

To diagnose metabolic syndrome, most doctors look for the presence of three or more of these components:

Central or abdominal obesity (measured by waist circumference):

Men - 40 inches or above
Women - 35 inches or above


Triglycerides greater than or equal to 150 milligrams per deciliter of blood (mg/dL)
HDL cholesterol:

Men - Less than 40 mg/dL
Women - Less than 50 mg/dL


Blood pressure greater than or equal to 130/85 millimeters of mercury (mmHg)
Fasting glucose greater than or equal to 100 mg/dL

<a title="Symptoms and Diagnosis of Metabolic Syndrome" href="https://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/Conditions/More/MetabolicSyndrome/Symptoms-and-Diagnosis-of-Metabolic-Syndrome_UCM_301925_Article.jsp">https://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/Conditions/More/MetabolicSyndrome/Symptoms-and-Diagnosis-of-Metabolic-Syndrome_UCM_301925_Article.jsp</a>
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After reading Fat Loss Happens on Monday a couple of times I couldn't find anywhere in the book or anywhere else where Josh Hillis recommends a particular paper or online food journal. In a podcast I've heard Josh say most of his successful fat loss clients use a free online food tracker at myfitnesspal.com.

 
 
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