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Other/Mixed The Weck Method - my experience

Other strength modalities (e.g., Clubs), mixed strength modalities (e.g., combined kettlebell and barbell), other goals (flexibility)

Pasibrzuch

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Some time ago the mighty algorhytm made me familiar with the Weck Method. Long story short, it's a training system that is based on the spinal engine theory and emphasizes the lateral fascial lines and getting into extreme ranges of motion into those. Here for example you can see what a landmine jerk looks like within the Weck Method. The logic of this movement (extremely short on one side, extremely elongated on the other) is recurrent in all exercises.

I try to be as much of a skeptic as possible, especially with regard to these new training methods that claim to be revolution within the fitness industry and so on and so on. What I'm even more skeptical of are my emotions, thoughts and judgements, so whenever I disbelief something I try to falsify it by conducting an experiment on myself.

Other things that made me skeptical about the Weck Method is their marketing - an eccentric "scientist" that comes up with "inventions" which are just overpriced ropes and rattles, coming up with silly or overintellectualized names for the elements of the training system (the royal coil and proximal rotation respectively), and testosterone-lowering music in their videos and such. Oh, and he's the creator of the bosu ball (but actually I think nobody trains with bosu ball anymore, it's just for people to make fun of it).

What intrigued me, however, (besides my uttermost need to try out things I distrust, as I mentioned before) is Christopher Chamberlin's instagram. He's the Chief Something-Something in the Weck Method. Whatever you think about the usefulness of his training so far, you cannot deny that he's 1) strong 2) injury resilient. And sometimes he's more merciful with the music.

Therefore I decided to try it. I started with elastic band isometrics and ropeflow. The latter was (and still is) a very fun way to do cardio and a coordination challenge. Also, any rope will do, you don't need to buy it from their website. The former was a great primer for running and other athletic activities. After a few rounds of different isometrics the fluidity of my gait increases immediately.

Recently I started playing with some coiled landmine exercises and I admit that I would qualify this as a WTH effect. Not in terms of increasing my absolute strength, but the movement quality. I feel that over just a week of implementing some exercises my gait changed tremendously and I walk more relaxed (I have terrible problems with being tense). I'm definitely keeping them in my routine and trying to reach some heavy weights.

I tried applying it to kettlebells, but I don't find it to blend well. Maybe some coiled lunges, if you don't have access to dumbells (which will increase your ROM).

The source of my lower back problems is my right ankle, so overpriced their are, I think I will try out sole steps. Specialists I trust more talk about the benefits of additional support under the inner heel (not the foot arch), so they might be a thing. And there's a 30 day warranty. When I try them out I gonna report if their of any use.

I'm writing this post because I want to encourage you to try the Weck Method and other training systems you distrust on the first glance. Irritating their marketing can be, if even one element of the system can work for you, that's a win.

Any experience with the Weck Method and other systems you initially disregarded?
 
Interesting! I recently purchased a strength training video at BJJ Fanatics that emphasized rotational power, but not quite in the same way. I wonder if rotation is the next big thing.

I'm watching the Weck bodyweight exercise video on youtube it really seems similar to boxing mechanics, which makes me think I can pick this up pretty quickly. Can you tell me what the goal of Weck is? I'm having trouble figuring that out. Like, is it supposed to correct imbalances? Teach your body how to use rotational power when loaded? Either way, I'm interested because it looks easy to slot into my training. EDIT: okay, I think I'm getting it. It's teaching your body how to be a spring. This is REALLY similar to boxing mechanics.

Two things that I thought were going to be nonsense but had huge impacts were Extreme Isometrics and Original Strength (OS really transformed my body and even my life, no joke).
 
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I recently purchased a strength training video at BJJ Fanatics that emphasized rotational power, but not quite in the same way. I wonder if rotation is the next big thing.
Mark Wildman's clubbells? I find them to be a great tool.

I think that rotational power might be rather making a comeback. I think it became popular like a decade ago with an advent of the fitness franchise called Functional Patterns. The level of dogmaticism was unbearable though.
I find the concept of rotational power not flawed, but imprecise. For example, I can do med ball throws all day, without any effect and I'm better off doing OL or kettlebell ballistics to improve my power output. With the Weckmethod it's totally different - the coiling action has this feature that totally changes the way I move by default.
 
Mark Wildman's clubbells? I find them to be a great tool.

I think that rotational power might be rather making a comeback. I think it became popular like a decade ago with an advent of the fitness franchise called Functional Patterns. The level of dogmaticism was unbearable though.
I find the concept of rotational power not flawed, but imprecise. For example, I can do med ball throws all day, without any effect and I'm better off doing OL or kettlebell ballistics to improve my power output. With the Weckmethod it's totally different - the coiling action has this feature that totally changes the way I move by default.

No, it was Breathing Life Into Fitness by Bill Maeda at StrongandFit.com I picked up some cool stuff from the videos.

As I'm listening to the Weck guys talk about bracing core vs coiling core, it really reminds me of Original Strength's emphasis on reflexive strength:


What would you recommend as a good starting point for training the Weck method?
 
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What would you recommend as a good starting point for training the Weck method?
1) do the coiling core drill I linked in my first post as a warm up, then some band drills. Search for a cramp in your lat - then you know you do it enough
2) if you have access to a landmine do some landmine clean and jerks. That's the fastest way to feel the magic.
3) get a piece of rope so you can learn basic ropeflow drills.
4) experiment - do some standard exercises while being coiled.

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and do the coiled exercises one before and one after the bilateral drills. The former should enable you to check if there's any carry over to absolute strength training. The latter will return you the fluid gait (meaning: relative movement of pelvises) after some bilateral work.
 
1) do the coiling core drill I linked in my first post as a warm up, then some band drills. Search for a cramp in your lat - then you know you do it enough
2) if you have access to a landmine do some landmine clean and jerks. That's the fastest way to feel the magic.
3) get a piece of rope so you can learn basic ropeflow drills.
4) experiment - do some standard exercises while being coiled.

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and do the coiled exercises one before and one after the bilateral drills. The former should enable you to check if there's any carry over to absolute strength training. The latter will return you the fluid gait (meaning: relative movement of pelvises) after some bilateral work.

They've got a sample workout on their website. I think it gives me enough to cobble something together with your links.

EDIT: okay, this king coil has really put me in touch with my left glute. Sometimes I struggle to keep the adductor out of the action on the left side, but something about these hip mechanics are really showing me how to keep it turned off. This is already hugely productive for me.
 
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@Pasibrzuch you might consider looking at content from Landmine University if you enjoy the LM stuff. Lots of similarities.
yes, I found them long time ago via Phil Daru. I think they've branched of the Weck Method. I think landmines are the best tool to benefit from this training modality - the fact that you can drive forward with your center of mass creates the right gait/running intuition.

Landmine Univeristy is also hyping nordic deadlifts - gonna try that today.
 
yes, I found them long time ago via Phil Daru. I think they've branched of the Weck Method. I think landmines are the best tool to benefit from this training modality - the fact that you can drive forward with your center of mass creates the right gait/running intuition.

Landmine Univeristy is also hyping nordic deadlifts - gonna try that today.
Hmm, I had not heard of the nordic deadlift before. The LM university video I found had the person demonstrating up on a bench, like he was going to do a nordic curl. I am curious how they treat you when you try them; at first glance I have a hard time thinking they are worth it.

I also like landmines for shoulder mobility work. Do LM presses (or if you have access to a viking attachment, even better) but keep your center of mass back on your feet; don't lean forward into the bar as you press. It forces the shoulders to move around the ribs better. The torso can be inclined (kind of like you are getting ready to hop or hinge), but your weight should still all be over your feet.
 
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