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Can someone summarize what Q&D, S&S, and AXE are meant to accomplish? What end state is each designed to bring you to?

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S&S: Alactic capacity + body coordination strength adaptations
Q&D: Alactic capacity + glycolytic power energy production adaptations
AXE: Alactic power + cardiovascular stroke volume adaptations.

All improve grip strength and core stability. All provide strength and conditioning at relatively low fatigue, at-home, portable, and time efficiency.
 
This is a very interesting question, and a very good thread.
It would also be nice to know, for an average person, non-athlete, what kind of training to stick with.
On the serious side of a funny comment - none of them will improve how good do you look naked, unless you are overweight :) .
 
Pavel.Kosenkov said:
On the serious side of a funny comment - none of them will improve how good do you look naked, unless you are overweight :) .
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There was a thread on this with some impressive pics, starting from here:

Kettlebell - Aesthetics

Hi guys I tend to get a few weeks into a strength / KB / performance based program and then change course for a more traditional bodybuilding program and the aesthetics. It sounds crazy when I type it out, bc I'm not a vain person, but it's happened a few times now, even though intellectually I...
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"Can someone summarize what Q&D, S&S, and AXE are meant to accomplish? What end state is each designed to bring you to?"

Here is how Pavel summarized them
Pavel said:
Q&D and A+A (e.g., in its simplest form, 5 high power swings or snatches OTM, or on the minute) are highly complementary. Q&D builds more and bigger mitochondria and A+A makes them function better. (The technical terms are “mitochondrial biogenesis” and “mitochondrial respiration,” respectively.) [...] S&S was designed to stimulate both MT biogenesis and respiration. (Specialized regimens for either—Q&D and A+A—are more effective but less efficient.)
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Source: The Quick and the Dead vs Strong Endurance™—What is the Difference? | StrongFirst

S&S is a more complete program in terms of warm-up and mobility prescriptions. And it is intended to facilitare more muscle growth (at least for beginners):
Pavel in Q&D said:
As a result, a relative beginner lacks the intensity needed to produce the desired metabolic events, finds the Q&D protocol ridiculously easy, and only nets a partial adaptation. S&S, which on the power-to-acid continuum lies somewhere between Q&D and HIIT, is the perfect program for this athlete.
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I had a similar question when Q&D came out and tried to sort my thoughts in this post, outlining some differences between programs and why S&S might be better suited for beginners. (Since AXE and other materials have came out, this would be a bit shorter if I wrote it today.)
 
@Bauer, my best body composition was when I was lifting the barbell, upper/lower split, 4 days a week. Squatting and dead-lifting 2 days a week. On creatine.
When I have started with kettlebells after that I have lost strength and muscle definition. I have pictures to prove it.
But this is all kind of obvious of course.
What I have gained was - shoulder stability, flexibility and conditioning. My grip was never an issue.
For the rest of your post - it's kind of like quoting the bible in the church. Yeah, I have read those books too. I would be interested in additional information beyond the one written in Pavel's books. Or - a personal experience.
Oh, @Bauer, just to clarify - this is not a beginning of an argument, that is just sharing my information. Thanks for answering to me in your post.
 
Pavel.Kosenkov said:
@Bauer, my best body composition was when I was lifting the barbell, upper/lower split, 4 days a week. Squatting and dead-lifting 2 days a week. On creatine.
When I have started with kettlebells after that I have lost strength and muscle definition. I have pictures to prove it.
But this is all kind of obvious of course.
What I have gained was - shoulder stability, flexibility and conditioning. My grip was never an issue.
For the rest of your post - it's kind of like quoting the bible in the church. Yeah, I have read those books too. I would be interested in additional information beyond the one written in Pavel's books. Or - a personal experience.
Oh, @Bauer, just to clarify - this is not a beginning of an argument, that is just sharing my information. Thanks for answering to me in your post.
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No no, it's fine. I just wanted to point out that these type of plans can transform your physique even when starting out lean (but don't have to, if you are already experienced with barbells etc.). They were and are transformational for me.
 
Ege said:
Hi, isn’t slow twitch muscle fiber hypertrophy method a glycolytic protocol?
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Good question.
In training it seems pretty glycolytic. But AFAIK the targeted adaptation is not so much about building glycolytic capacity, but about building ST fibers - and because slow twitch muscles come pre-equipped with mitochondria this should then help with more aerobic capacity in competition.

Long rests, limited ROM, and lighter %RM seem to play role here, too: How to Build Your Slow Fibers, Part I | StrongFirst
 
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