Kettlebell Friendly challenge to Dan John

[brsmnky804]

Hi Strongfirst Community,

So grateful for the protocols and works of Pavel and all the various progeny. This is a friendly challenge to @Dan John to update the below article with suggestions on integrating Q and D, and AXXE into his strongfirst roadmap as described in the following:

Things Are Going So Well, Help Me Screw It Up, Part II | StrongFirst

We should use performance standards to dictate when new skills are introduced. Follow the path laid out by Pavel. Let’s take a look at how this works.

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[Dan John]

I'm not sure these other programs would support the idea here. The idea, and this was Mike's, to build up a logical progression between the programs (KB dominated).

Since writing this, I think I would be a lot more focused on the "for whom is this appropriate for?" question. This was a fun "Do This" idea but it is really for a narrow band of humanity. And...there's nothing wrong with that, of course. Finally, most people can't finish a single program without amending, changing, adapting, or quitting it. I look at the commitment level of this article and I doubt many could actually string these together.

If I could just get people do DO the programs, as written, continue with the appropriate follow up, and stick with it...hmmm, I'm not sure where I am going with it. My brother has followed 5/3/1 for a decade now and I did a program, without missing or changing anything, for seven years. Maybe it's the wiring? Just a thought...

Imagine if dieters followed the diet!

 

[brsmnky804]

@Dan John thanks so much for the reply and feedback. Once I surrendered to S and S as it was written I started to enjoy substantial progress and results. I’m closing in on timed simple standard, and I’m eager to understand where to get next as someone who is more endurance focused in pursuit as opposed to a competing power lifter. I love the “simplicity” of ROP so to speak and how detailed it is in layout. When I read Q and D I assumed it was a follow up to s and s but your article made me reconsider that assumption.

 

[silveraw]

When I read Q and D I assumed it was a follow up to s and s but your article made me reconsider that assumption.

If you look at the end of S&S Pavel recommends doing some more strength focused work for a bit.

So probably still RoP or RELOAD is what I would do.

Unless endurance is a priority then QD or AA would be good

 

[Steve Freides]

@brsmnky804, this article from December, 2023, while not addressing your request to @Dan John directly, might shed some light about some StrongFirst programs and resources for you and anyone else reading along:

How to Navigate the Strong Endurance Universe | StrongFirst

Strong Endurance™ is our umbrella term for all anti-glycolytic training methods.Anti-glycolytic training is “anti-HIIT” that trains you to produce less lactic acid instead of tolerating more of it. AGT is used by many Eastern European national teams in a variety of sports: judo, cross country...

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