Considering the energy systems overlap, I'm still not clear on what exactly is or is not GT for the sake of this and similar conversations, assuming we are guarding against metabolic stress. What is the tipping point?
So where the dose is just right before it becomes 'potentially' negative?
Too intense, too often mode will be different for each of us and will be different for each of us at different times. I don't think it will ever be an exact thing so you have to think in terms of general.
We have S&S model - all out effort every 2 weeks when appropriate robust to do so...so swinging the 32 for blokes. ETK and ROP, light, medium heavy is one day a week hard effort swings.
Dan John's park/bus bench where a year is split into park bench for the majority and 2 months, that's 2 x one month blocks I think, of hard effort. Monthly then, 5 months easy, 1 month hard. (not far off the weekly ratio of Pavel's ROP)
So, balancing those 2 - if we accept those views, that is - we have a once a week, or once every other week. And checking that against other stuff going on in your life as you go.
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Here is a question, one I often struggle with: with all those other hormonal things that happen (for better or worse, I hesitate to say it leans more toward worse) is it *worth it* to do HIIT? Is it worth it 1x week? 2x? at what point does it become too much? Is not doing any at all a hindrance?
It depends on what you are training for and how much time you have. I am simply training for health and life.
*If I had only 10 minutes, 3 times per week to train (30 min total) I would do HIT
*If I had one hour, 3 times per week to train (3 hours total) I would do basic strength training with a dash of HIT at the end of each session.
*If I had one hour per day to train, I would do basic strength training (3 X week) , MAF style aerobic training (3 X week), and a small (once per week) bit of HIT.
*If I had more time than that, I would do the last choice above and add in lots of walking and nap every day. I currently have lots of time ; )
Mike
mprevost, Nov 11, 2017
......we have some generalities there, for health and life, as Mike says.
So for performance? For peaking? For competition? What then.....
This is where it gets messy....well more messy....that tipping point is going to change again, to risk/reward. For pro athletes, there's cash involved, incentives, the stakes are higher and greater risks. Underneath it all, we all have the same physiology though no? ok some are better trained perhaps, better genetics even, yet underpinning performance is health, surely? And we arrive back at where we started because to reach the peak of athletic performance to gain a competitive edge you may need to put your health at risk and then it gets a bit dark and extreme....
I value Pavel's, Dan's and Mike's sensible options dipping into the glycolytic training now and then, once a week, every other week. I train for master athletic sprints....I up the ante a month before a race, train some hard sessions, back off and race. Not won anything yet, oh hum......