Love this thread.
Not sure if it’s been talked about and it might even be mentioned in the giant series book. I don’t own it, I have one of Geoffs older releases of it reloaded I think.
But what’s anyone’s thoughts on running each phase as a clean and jerk? In his other writings where he has clean and press the main exercises he has other options of running them as push press or jerk.
I love the conditioning effect from clean and jerks. My thoughts were running a 12 week cycle with clean and jerk. For the extra increase in weight, conditioning effect and more of a metabolic workout. Then run another 12 week cycle using clean and press for more of strength and hypertrophic response. I know RMF is a clean and jerk program but looking for more thoughts on running the protocols from the giant series.
Curious what smarter people then me have to say.
First, don’t infer from my responding that I consider myself among “smarter people”?.....
You mention 12-weeks..., my advice there is to still re-evaluate the rep and/or weight youre using every 4 weeks (as written into the program). As you get fitter and stronger, you’re likely to turn it into a series of metcons otherwise (not that, 3x per week, thats “bad”, necessarily).
as for PP’s or jerks, i agree that’d be effective, but whether it’s “optimal” probably depends how your pressing and grip strength compare to your cleaning power and overall fitness; and what your goals are. I was concerned early that i would not get a great conditioning effect because my pressing was always the limiter. Now my pressing strength has improved and these are arguably as much (if not more) conditioning sessions as they are press grinds. If I switched over to PP’s, with the added weight, i think my limiter might become my grip, so the conditioning effect would maybe even decrease.....for me.
In the first week I did the 12-22 series and it wasn't metcon either.
I felt difficulty in the last repetitions. However, it was not a metcon.
That is interesting, as on my day of 22 sets yesterday, it was pretty metconny.... My guess is it depends on what is the “limiter”. For me, on the 22 set day, it was my “system” being able to crank out that many ballistics. It wasn’t the presses.
Those points made, I think the program is so well put together that ANY approach, so long as you stay within the general parameters, works. It is nearly impossible to “do it wrong.” As
@John Grahill said......, don’t overthink it.
Guilty as charged?....
