Adam R Mundorf
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This stuff is so wild.
Off-Topic Interview with a Fruitarian
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metaldrummer
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No thx lol
Training for Life
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Any cliff notes?
metaldrummer
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Eat only fruit and not be able to lift anything heavy and probably die an early death from health complications from severe nutritional deficiencies?
Training for Life
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Sounds like an awful way to promote a diet. Typically people on podcasts speak good things about diets they promoteEat only fruit and not be able to lift anything heavy and probably die an early death from health complications from severe nutritional deficiencies?
the hansenator
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You're not supposed to drink water?
LukeV
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When I first read about the carnivore diet I was incredulous because it contradicted the foundational health advice given to human children by their mothers for probably something like 1000000 years. In that context “eat fruit” seems much healthier and far more viable while I recognise that advice from mothers, or what I call “moscience“, isn’t everything.
oab
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If one applied a nutritional calculator to all the food taken in, such as on a fruit diet, then you will find that one cannot achieve the macros and micro nutrient intakes needed for good health. Extensive supplementation is the only way if you choose the fruit way. Same for vegan.
A modern carnivore diet is not really a carnivore diet as those who practice it often just eat meat. One who eats "nose to tail" can meet the nutrient requirements that way. If you broke down the nutrient composition of the "nose to tail" diet you would find that it provides all the nutrients needed.
Yet each choses what they eat and in doing so choses the nutrition they get - there is a sort of physical "karma" involved.
A modern carnivore diet is not really a carnivore diet as those who practice it often just eat meat. One who eats "nose to tail" can meet the nutrient requirements that way. If you broke down the nutrient composition of the "nose to tail" diet you would find that it provides all the nutrients needed.
Yet each choses what they eat and in doing so choses the nutrition they get - there is a sort of physical "karma" involved.
metaldrummer
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Still better than OMAD.Sounds like an awful way to promote a diet. Typically people on podcasts speak good things about diets they promote
North Coast Miller
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I didn't watch the video, but if he was only eating one type of fruit, that's not really being a fruitarian.
A vegan diet doesn't require any supplementation. As with standard western diet, supplementation just makes it easier.
It works even better if you don't cook much of it, and eat it freshly killed while the muscle glycogen is intact. Many don't realize this, but obligate carnivores like big cats get more glucose in their diet than most paleo, carnivore, and ketogenic folk. Even the Inuit got loads of glucose from the diving mammals they ate.
Just goes to show how adaptable the human digestive system is.
watchnerd
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I didn't watch it eitiher.
Who has time for a 2 HOUR video about a guy who eats watermelon?
silveraw
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People who enjoy recreational outrage about others nutrition choices.
watchnerd
Level 8 Valued Member
Maybe if it was 2 hours of watermelon recipes.
Although that gets tricky because most recipes have more than one ingredient and he's just watermelon
metaldrummer
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Omg like he turned into one?
metaldrummer
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What do you guys think about this? I'm thinking maybe this will help me put some lbs on my bench?
oab
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This is Good point. Most people are keen on the raw version though. Paleo diet depends upon latitude and as you go towards temperate tropical the fruit and vegetable component goes up and will ensure glucose remains where it should be.
On raw wild food meats, big cats and so on don't bleed the animals either and there is a fair bit of sugar and salt\electrolytes in blood. Modern abbattoir killed animals are extensively bled and often have a saline solution or similar used to remove all the blood.
If you look at the macros and micros it is difficult to get them all via vegan diet. B12, Iron and several others are a problem. But, of course, vegan and any other diet is a personal choice.
The micronutrients are a problem as mentioned. Also, amino acid composition of plant vs animal proteins varies. Refer charts illustrating that.
The amount of fibre needed depends upon the over all diet. Eskimos do well with virtually none except any from the guts of animals\fish they eat. Other cultures similar. Microbiome and peristalsis are influenced by fibre and various other factors.
The wheat protein is known to cause celiac disease and there are potentially harmful proteins in beans (eg flavism which is genetic and other problems).