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Other/Mixed Benefits of hanging

Other strength modalities (e.g., Clubs), mixed strength modalities (e.g., combined kettlebell and barbell), other goals (flexibility)
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I thought this was very interesting podcast by Tim Anderson & Aleks Salkin:


Many people seem to really recommend daily hanging (including Pavel, Dan John etc.), and it takes a very little time, so I figured why not give it a try.
I have done it daily for a week now. I find a nice stretch in the mid/low back area, and obviously it feels good in the shoulders. I also do a few leg raises.

What kind of grip do you guys use? Pull up, chin up, palms facing each other? All of them? Does it really matter?
 
I do them at the office using the railing of a staircase. So double overhand for me holding onto the flat horizontal bar at the bottom. Weird thing is that even though I could hang for 1+ minute when being +30lbs heavier than now grip has been a weak point of mine when using KBs. And TGUs untied a lot of knots in my upper back when starting S&S. :)
 
1) Gymnastics rings
2) Outdoors
3) Hang 'em high
4) Let your children play...
5) Baby, we were born to brachiate...

Have had rings dangling from base of banisters down into the hallway of our house for over a decade now - had no idea wife, son, and I have been doing GTG hangs & pull-ups until this year.

Active and passive dead hangs are great but swinging hangs are awesome...
 
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I have installed Gymnastic Rings in my living room.

I mainly use them for deloading the spine after S&S or before going to bed. Very short, mostly 10-15 seconds, sometimes 30 seconds. I often do something like the cobra stretch, where I place my feet far behind me and stretch my anterior chain. Oddly, I usually start by looking down and this often makes my neck click in a good way. Poor man's chiropractor... Most of my hangs are passive, and with feet on the ground. Pavel recommends it in S&S, so I trust them.

And as @ DuncanGB says, swinging around is great. You know, just go where the body wants go, breath calmly, relax and open up.

Here is Tim Anderson on a "reset" with rings:


And here with a straight bar:
 
I do them overhand on a bar, on rings, and one-handed on rings. The one-handed kind feel better to me on rings because on a bar, I have a tendency to rotate in ways I don't have good control over, and on the ring, the strap just twists but my shoulder stays in the same place. I'm currently working on a uneven rings as a sort of assisted one-arm chinup, and at the end of each set, I usually do a 5-second one-arm hang, and sometimes I make an off/easy day out of just doing one or two longer hangs - I think 15 seconds is my longest so far.

Hanging in a chinup grip for time feels weird to me so I don't do those often or for a long time.

-S-
 
My normal pull up grip and width. I like to do a heat check for 2 minutes a few hours after the days training. If the 2 minutes are rough I'll think about a light day or two looking forward. If at 2 min. I feel I could do a bit more, I'll think about wrecking shop the next day or so.
 
I hate to be that guy, but hanging has fixed my shoulders. I was about to get an MRI because I could not get rid of my shoulder pain after about 6 months, so I decided to try hanging. Basically, I hang from my doorway pullup bar 5-10 times a day for 30 seconds, rotating all the different grips, I don't keep track of reps, and to it more by feel.

I should also note a major realization for me: I AM WEAK! Pullups have always been tough for me, and I could never really progress in them, and now, because I am hanging, I am realizing that I am just too weak to do pullups (I actually have achieved timeless simple. That shows how imbalanced I am). Actually, I can't even really hang with my own full body weight (about 105kg) for more than 10-15 seconds without getting hurt, so I hang with my feet on the floor and slowly increase the tension until it starts to feel weak/unstable, then I spot myself. I plan to progress in the GTG style for however long I need to. I can see myself doing this every day for ever, and maybe even getting to the point where I can do pullups comfortably!

I think, when people talk about hanging for shoulder health, then they try to just hang with their full body weight, they end up getting hurt worse or not seeing any results (at least if they are weak like me). I think spotted hanging with a gentle progression is a very important way to go about it, at least until you can gague your strength level.
 
For the health of my beat-up shoulders, I hang from my pull-up bar for 1 minute after each training session. I always use the overhand grip, but I do alternate my thumb position (over the bar or wrapped around it).

I have to be mindful of reaching my heels toward the floor as opposed to pointing the toes, otherwise my lower back gets aggravated.
 
I recently started working with a new student who told me he had a cutter recommend shoulder surgery several months back which he was able to avoid by installing a bar in his garage and GTG hanging over a period of 3-4 months.
 
Current WR for dead hang , both hands stay on bar. 19:33 minutes
WR dead hang with rest, a hand my come off bar. 2 hours 22 minutes.

 
I added hanging into my warm up a few years ago. As I think using a variety of grips and swings is probably ideal this is how I progressed:

10s passive hang
10s passive hang + 5 shrugs
10s passive hang + 5 Shrugs + 10s active hang
10s passive hang + 5 Shrugs + 10s active hang + 10s top of pull uphold
After I worked up to that final sequence for a while I started playing with various grips and swing variations

Heres an awesome post from katy bowman on hanging and progressions for all levels

 
I think hanging is great, and for a variety of reasons.
But...
I really think it depends upon the ‘shoulder injury’ in question, as to wether hanging or other treatments will be effective as opposed to surgery. Some shoulder damage will not heal itself without surgical intervention.
The trick is in figuring out the difference.
 
I think hanging is great, and for a variety of reasons.
But...
I really think it depends upon the ‘shoulder injury’ in question, as to wether hanging or other treatments will be effective as opposed to surgery. Some shoulder damage will not heal itself without surgical intervention.
The trick is in figuring out the difference.
Agreed. In my students case he noticed pain relief early on, so he felt it safe to continue.
 
Love hangs and normally start and finish sessions with them. I mix grips, do passive and active and throw in one handed versions.

I always feel better after them.
 
I credit supinated hangs to helping fix the flexion issues I had in one shoulder for the last year or so. However, like others have said, hangs must be gently progressed by using the feet on the floor, etc. It seems like many people neglect proper overhead biomechanics and compensate to get into flexion somehow (usuallly by internally rotating the shoulder and flaring the elbows out to side). Over time this manifests as dysfunction and pain. Based on what I've read and been through, it seems like quite a few shoulder issues stem from bad biomechanics. Hangs, properly implemented, seem to create more space in the subacromial space and thus help to relieve issues.

An often overlooked component of hanging is that sometimes you DO need to activate certain muscles. Most people are tight and thus benefit from passive hangs, but hyper mobile people need to engage their shoulders, particularly the external rotators. Also. . .

I would also add that if you're suffering from shoulder dysfunction, it's important to see how the position of one shoulder differs from the other in the hang, and do your best to make them match, even if that means regressing a lot to accomodate a tighter side. Always accomodate the weaker/tighter side.

For instance, I had "full flexion" across sides, but my left side was acheiving this by internally rotating and elevating higher/harder with the upper trapezius. This was indicated most easily by how the inside pit of my left elbow was much more internally rotated compared to the right. I had horrible left-sided neck pain for about a year and had attributed it to having had shoulder surgery in the right shoulder. I had assumed that I was unconsciously compensating with the left and thus "overworking it," if that makes sense. Turns out it was just poor biomechanics!

Doing gradually progessive supinated hangs and engaging the left shoulder into proper external rotation helped with this, but it took ~4 months give or take. It's still not 100%, but it's getting close.

I do them overhand on a bar, on rings, and one-handed on rings. The one-handed kind feel better to me on rings because on a bar, I have a tendency to rotate in ways I don't have good control over, and on the ring, the strap just twists but my shoulder stays in the same place. I'm currently working on a uneven rings as a sort of assisted one-arm chinup, and at the end of each set, I usually do a 5-second one-arm hang, and sometimes I make an off/easy day out of just doing one or two longer hangs - I think 15 seconds is my longest so far.

Hanging in a chinup grip for time feels weird to me so I don't do those often or for a long time.

-S-
I'm not a certified specialist, but based on my experience, I suspect that uneven rotation between sides has something to do with what I described in my above paragraph, i.e. one shoulder might be tighter in different places than the other. I've experienced it and seen it in former students too. Supinated hangs felt rough on my forearms/wrists at first, but by using assistance from my feet over time I can now do them comfortably in a hanging L, and my problem shoulder feels much much better.
 
An often overlooked component of hanging is that sometimes you DO need to activate certain muscles. Most people are tight and thus benefit from passive hangs, but hyper mobile people need to engage their shoulders, particularly the external rotators.
While we're at it:
I've had some shoulder discomfort in my right shoulder for a long time and my shoulder always clicked when I raised my arm overhead. I only got rid off this by doing OS resets, namely hands-and-knees crawling (baby crawling) and deadbugs. Somehow both resets repositioned my shoulder and cleared up my faulty movement patterns, with very little conscious effort. (I focused on keeping an "open armpit", though, a cue I picked up from Dan John.)

Before that I'd had a sharp pain in my left shoulder that I could not get rid off for years. But then I found this article, followed it - and my dysfunction disappeared with two weeks (lacrosse ball pin'n'pull massage for pec minor and front delt):
 
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