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lokate
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Yes i even have had a surgery.
The docter first did take a picture of the knee and then we talked about my pain etc.
He said the picture didnt show anything wrong. He didnt know what was wrong.
That was after the surgery.
Finally hé put a needle inmiddels knee with some stuff.
The pain was almost away for to weeks but since the its only getting worden.
I have a fysical job i am a window cleaner so i have to walk with ladders, climing on top of houses etc
I cant stop doiing that because its my own little family business.
I wad planning to go to the docter again next week.
The docter first did take a picture of the knee and then we talked about my pain etc.
He said the picture didnt show anything wrong. He didnt know what was wrong.
That was after the surgery.
Finally hé put a needle inmiddels knee with some stuff.
The pain was almost away for to weeks but since the its only getting worden.
I have a fysical job i am a window cleaner so i have to walk with ladders, climing on top of houses etc
I cant stop doiing that because its my own little family business.
I wad planning to go to the docter again next week.
the hansenator
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Have you asked your doctor about physical therapy? I went for years with doctors telling me they couldn't find anything wrong. That was because it wasn't physical damage but certain muscles that had gotten weak and weren't working the way they're supposed to.
pet'
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Hello,
Interesting Matt Furey's interview by A. Salkin
The Hammer Cast: Ep. 23: Matt Furey on calisthenics, martial arts, & physical resilience on Apple Podcasts
Kind regards,
Pet'
Interesting Matt Furey's interview by A. Salkin
The Hammer Cast: Ep. 23: Matt Furey on calisthenics, martial arts, & physical resilience on Apple Podcasts
Kind regards,
Pet'
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First time I listened to Matt. Not sure what to think yet. I tried Hindu push-ups after and my god, they were hard! I know you have done a lot of bodyweight training, what are your thought on Matt´s work (programming) or the royal court?
Hindu Pushups & Squats by Alex Salkin
pet'
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Hello,
@Stefan Olsson
Well, to a certain extent, it works well.
I admit he is perfectly right when he says that it trains strength. Nonetheless, it works strength...mostly at the beginning. Indeed, no matter what, once you reach a certain point, you have diminishing returns. This means that you do not gain the same amount of strength per amount of repetitions. So you end up by mainly working on endurance (as far as muscle are concerned). Adding tons of repetitions ultimately makes the training way longer.
This is the main limit of all the "high repetition training routine" in my opinion.
If performed correctly, it will strengthen joints though.
As many bodyweight-only routines oblige, if you want to increase your maximal strength (not your endurance then), you are obliged to progressively overload your muscles by focusing on harder variations. Royal court does not do that. You will be amazed how fast the body adapts to "high repetitions of easy variations" (for instance regular push ups). This is only a matter of weeks.
Of course, this has a place:
- tendons & joints
- specific endurance
I noticed that very high repetitions tend to maintain my maximal strength. However, I can not really increase it doing only high reps. The reverse is not true. I tend to have more endurance by focusing on harder variation with relatively low rest. GTG with hard variation also maintains / increases endurance.
Kind regards,
Pet'
@Stefan Olsson
Well, to a certain extent, it works well.
I admit he is perfectly right when he says that it trains strength. Nonetheless, it works strength...mostly at the beginning. Indeed, no matter what, once you reach a certain point, you have diminishing returns. This means that you do not gain the same amount of strength per amount of repetitions. So you end up by mainly working on endurance (as far as muscle are concerned). Adding tons of repetitions ultimately makes the training way longer.
This is the main limit of all the "high repetition training routine" in my opinion.
If performed correctly, it will strengthen joints though.
As many bodyweight-only routines oblige, if you want to increase your maximal strength (not your endurance then), you are obliged to progressively overload your muscles by focusing on harder variations. Royal court does not do that. You will be amazed how fast the body adapts to "high repetitions of easy variations" (for instance regular push ups). This is only a matter of weeks.
Of course, this has a place:
- tendons & joints
- specific endurance
I noticed that very high repetitions tend to maintain my maximal strength. However, I can not really increase it doing only high reps. The reverse is not true. I tend to have more endurance by focusing on harder variation with relatively low rest. GTG with hard variation also maintains / increases endurance.
Kind regards,
Pet'
guardian7
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In that podcast, he did not emphasize high rep training. He gave many examples of increasing the difficulty of bodyweight moves.
guardian7
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According to the book, the idea for S&S came from a boxing coach. Hence, doing martial arts 2-3 times a week (as I do) and supplementing it with KB work is all you need.
Another approach you can take is to take various fitness goals and work toward them over the course of the year. For example, I do barbell work instead of Muay Thai in Jan and Feb, which is slow work time for me.
You can choose one thing such as swing, deadlift, high volume bodyweight and then do that for a few months and then change your focus. Choose whatever you think is weak. My bench press is weak, so that is my focus right now. After high refrequencey barbell work I will do bodyweight, swings and improve my snatch, and Muay Thai in the spring.
In short, it is not which workout should I do but what goal should I work on now. There is research that says we should use weight in periods of 6 to 12 weeks or Pavel says that even after two weeks of hard focus, a change is good.
Therefore, you could take the basic template that Pavel Macek suggests. But have one focus every few months or so.
With regard to the Royal Road, the same principle applies, if you only did very high rep bodyweight, you could have overuse injuries and your fitness might not be balanced. If you did a high rep bodyweight focus once a year, I can't see it being a problem. If you did the exercises moderately with another focus then it could work.
Summary, have a base and then rotate various goals over the course of the year. Monthly, bimonthly, or seasonally, are good markers I find. Or depending on your work/life commitments.
pet'
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Hello,
What I just wanted to say is that this idea of progressive overload is not new per se. For instance, we find the same principle when we read TNW. We do not perform pistol "from scratch". There are several progression toward this move. In this respect, Furey is perfectly right. We definitely can get stronger by chasing harder progressions.
Nonetheless, the "core" of his physical training remains "Combat Conditioning" and the "Royal Court". The inspiration of this routine comes from Hindu wrestlers, who perform on a daily basis a lot of dands and baithaks.
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Kind regards,
Pet'
You are right.
What I just wanted to say is that this idea of progressive overload is not new per se. For instance, we find the same principle when we read TNW. We do not perform pistol "from scratch". There are several progression toward this move. In this respect, Furey is perfectly right. We definitely can get stronger by chasing harder progressions.
Nonetheless, the "core" of his physical training remains "Combat Conditioning" and the "Royal Court". The inspiration of this routine comes from Hindu wrestlers, who perform on a daily basis a lot of dands and baithaks.
Combat Conditioning
The author stopped lifting weights for five months to test out this MMA-based bodyweight training program. Here’s what he learned.
Kind regards,
Pet'
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guardian7
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Hello,
You are right.
What I just wanted to say is that this idea of progressive overload is not new per se. For instance, we find the same principle when we read TNW. We do not perform pistol "from scratch". There are several progression toward this move. In this respect, Furey is perfectly right. We definitely can get stronger by chasing harder progressions.
Nonetheless, the "core" of his physical training remains "Combat Conditioning" and the "Royal Court". The inspiration of this routine comes from Hindu wrestlers, who perform on a daily basis a lot of dands and baithaks.
Combat Conditioning
The author stopped lifting weights for five months to test out this MMA-based bodyweight training program. Here’s what he learned.
Kind regards,
Pet'
It is possible his approach has changed. He probably would say that both high rep and progressions are good. He also talked about super slow reps as Pavel did in a couple of articles.
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