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Mixing dead stop swings with regular swings

serjetto

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Hello everyone. I'm still stuck with one kettlebell indefinitely. Yesterday I tried to do S&S with 3 dead stops + 7 regular swings. I felt that the average for me bell became much heavier!! How about continuing to progress to 5 dead stops + 5 normal swings? I understand that this is not the original S&S, but the principle is the same. What do you guys think?
 
Do you mean rotate with sessions of regular swings, making it kind of a hard day? Or alternate sets of dead stop swings with regular swings in the same session?
 
Hello everyone. I'm still stuck with one kettlebell indefinitely. Yesterday I tried to do S&S with 3 dead stops + 7 regular swings. I felt that the average for me bell became much heavier!! How about continuing to progress to 5 dead stops + 5 normal swings? I understand that this is not the original S&S, but the principle is the same. What do you guys think?
Mind me asking why you’re “stuck with one bell” ?
 
@serjetto
Personally, I'm not a fan of dead stop swings.

In my experience, the first rep, hiked off the floor, is always the worst rep of the set and pretty much HAS to be that way.

One group of faults we see all the time in people's swings is hinging too early, dropping the bell too low, and having bad timing out of the hole because the hips moved back way before the bell. Well, hiking the bell off the floor pretty much ensures that the hinge is too early and ahead of the bell (because you start in the full hinge position with the hips back and the bell out in front), and that the bell is too low (because it starts on the floor).

IMO, hiking the bell off the floor is a necessary evil to start a set. There isn't a better way to initiate the first rep, but it's something you need to adjust FROM, not something to replicate on subsequent reps.

Apparently a lot of people seem to find the dead swing useful (and I can't argue with that experience), but I am honestly not one of them.

A better solution: Learn to snatch.
 
@serjetto
Personally, I'm not a fan of dead stop swings.

In my experience, the first rep, hiked off the floor, is always the worst rep of the set and pretty much HAS to be that way.

One group of faults we see all the time in people's swings is hinging too early, dropping the bell too low, and having bad timing out of the hole because the hips moved back way before the bell. Well, hiking the bell off the floor pretty much ensures that the hinge is too early and ahead of the bell (because you start in the full hinge position with the hips back and the bell out in front), and that the bell is too low (because it starts on the floor).

IMO, hiking the bell off the floor is a necessary evil to start a set. There isn't a better way to initiate the first rep, but it's something you need to adjust FROM, not something to replicate on subsequent reps.

Apparently a lot of people seem to find the dead swing useful (and I can't argue with that experience), but I am honestly not one of them.

A better solution: Learn to snatch.
Yes, snatch and jerk included. I just want to add some variety. But I was surprised when normally light sets of 10 became heavy with dead stops + regular 3+7. When it's heavy, it means it causes additional adaptation, which means you can progress. It may not be ideal, but it still makes sense.
 
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