pet'
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Hello,
Standard are also something quite moving as time goes by. They also change in function of the strength coach. .
Below is what D. John mentioned
However, in a recent podcast (I think the last one), he mentioned that he changed his mind a little, in favour of something more well rounded. Indeed, he noticed that nowadays, plenty of people are able to bench his "old" standard. Nonetheless, pull ups are now underated. He noted that it almost becomes uncommon to see someone able to do 15 strict pull ups.
As a precision, he mentioned that this is especially true in the US. Indeed, it seems that US folks are good in bench press, and "not that good" in pull ups. This is the reverse in Europe.
On the other hand, you can also consider strength like Mike Dolce, who mainly work in the MMA / fight scene. For him, it is almost useless to tackle bench press or weighted squat unless you are already able to do 100 of each one with good form in a row. I guess the "reference" is something to take into consideration.
The same goes for Zach Even-Esh, which is now a good proponent of lighter work (using mostly bells / db / bdw), even if he still lift heavy here and there.
So, some job also have very specific standard. The French FireFighter of Paris for instance: They have a daily standard to meet: they have to be able to get over a floor, in full gear, every morning. This is not "complete" (no leg test, no real precise indicators such as the good ones mentioned by @Bro Mo ) but it still exists
Kind regards,
Pet'
Standard are also something quite moving as time goes by. They also change in function of the strength coach. .
Below is what D. John mentioned
Strength Standards...Sleepless in Seattle
Stupidest name for a movie ever: I slept ten hours last night. The weather puts me to sleep. I am here at Perform Better and I gave out my strength standards from the book, “Intervention:” For Men: Push Expected = Bodyweight bench press Game-changer = Bodyweight bench press for 15 reps Pull...
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However, in a recent podcast (I think the last one), he mentioned that he changed his mind a little, in favour of something more well rounded. Indeed, he noticed that nowadays, plenty of people are able to bench his "old" standard. Nonetheless, pull ups are now underated. He noted that it almost becomes uncommon to see someone able to do 15 strict pull ups.
As a precision, he mentioned that this is especially true in the US. Indeed, it seems that US folks are good in bench press, and "not that good" in pull ups. This is the reverse in Europe.
On the other hand, you can also consider strength like Mike Dolce, who mainly work in the MMA / fight scene. For him, it is almost useless to tackle bench press or weighted squat unless you are already able to do 100 of each one with good form in a row. I guess the "reference" is something to take into consideration.
The same goes for Zach Even-Esh, which is now a good proponent of lighter work (using mostly bells / db / bdw), even if he still lift heavy here and there.
So, some job also have very specific standard. The French FireFighter of Paris for instance: They have a daily standard to meet: they have to be able to get over a floor, in full gear, every morning. This is not "complete" (no leg test, no real precise indicators such as the good ones mentioned by @Bro Mo ) but it still exists
Kind regards,
Pet'