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Kettlebell Top Set Method

DrG

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Hello everyone,
Looking for a workout that's:
- short (ideally less than 15' including warm-up)
- not too much exhausting
- allowing to at least maintain the gains made on Strong! with DCP
- to be held over a few months with possible sleep deprivation
I came across this article:



Do you think that applying this routine 2 times a week on DCP would make it possible to maintain, or even slightly progress, on this movement?

Example, for a 6-7RM @2x32, after a general warm-up of 5' OSR style

0:00 5 reps @2x24
1:00 5 reps @2x24
3:00 5 reps @2x24
6:00 3 reps @2x32
10:00 4-5 reps @2x32

Thanks for your feedback!
 
Hello everyone,
Looking for a workout that's:
- short (ideally less than 15' including warm-up)
- not too much exhausting
- allowing to at least maintain the gains made on Strong! with DCP
- to be held over a few months with possible sleep deprivation
I came across this article:



Do you think that applying this routine 2 times a week on DCP would make it possible to maintain, or even slightly progress, on this movement?

Example, for a 6-7RM @2x32, after a general warm-up of 5' OSR style

0:00 5 reps @2x24
1:00 5 reps @2x24
3:00 5 reps @2x24
6:00 3 reps @2x32
10:00 4-5 reps @2x32

Thanks for your feedback!
An idea that comes to mind is to keep doing Strong and split it in two sessions of 10 minutes, as suggested in @Geoff Neupert Shortcuts. You do a session in the morning and another in the afternoon or something like that, and do a set on top of the 2/3 minutes. 3 to 5 sets per session and about 10-15 min per session.

Another thing you could do is to do half the sets in a 15 min session and the other half grease the groove throughout the day.

Can't comment on that program, haven't tested it.
 
Hello everyone,
Looking for a workout that's:
- short (ideally less than 15' including warm-up)
- not too much exhausting
- allowing to at least maintain the gains made on Strong! with DCP
- to be held over a few months with possible sleep deprivation
I came across this article:



Do you think that applying this routine 2 times a week on DCP would make it possible to maintain, or even slightly progress, on this movement?

Example, for a 6-7RM @2x32, after a general warm-up of 5' OSR style

0:00 5 reps @2x24
1:00 5 reps @2x24
3:00 5 reps @2x24
6:00 3 reps @2x32
10:00 4-5 reps @2x32

Thanks for your feedback!
I'm a big fan of top set with back offs. That's a great way to train. I think what you are describing seems a little difficult to work, as there is not really room for the adjustability of barbells with a fixed weight. You might be able to use what you're talking about to maintain.

I think you would be better off using a double progression method. (RM-2) for 3 sets ... grow to 5 sets, drop back to 3 sets but add a rep. So if 2x32kg is a 6RM it would look like:

Week 1: 3x4
Week 2: 4x4
Week 3: 5x5
Week 4: 3x5
Week 5: 4x5
Week 6: 5x5
Week 7: 3x6
Week 8: 4x6
Week 9: 5x6

On your second day, make it a medium/light day and just do the same sets but drop a rep.

The main problem with this is that it is a pretty challenging progression and 5 sets + plus warmups in 15 minutes it is going to be very hard to not let recovery be the limiter.

With a strict time frame like what you're talking about, you could work on increasing density before increasing reps or sets. For example, 5 minutes to warmup, 10 minutes to work. Goal is a set every 4 minutes. Then work on 3 minutes, then work down to 2 minutes. When you can get that time down to 2 minutes, you add a set.

Might look like:

Week 1: Set 1 @ 5:00, Set 2 @ 9:00 , Set 3 @ 13:00
Week 2: Set 1 @ 5:00, Set 2 @ 8:45, Set 3 @ 12:30
Week 3: Set 1 @ 5:00, Set 2 @ 8:30, Set 3 @ 12:00
Week 4: Set 1 @ 5:00, Set 2 @ 8:15, Set 3 @ 11:30, Set 4 @ 14:45
Week 5: Set 1 @ 5:00, Set 2 @ 8:00, Set 3 @ 11:00, Set 4 @ 14:00
Week 6: Set 1 @ 5:00, Set 2 @ 7:45, Set 3 @ 10:30, Set 4 @ 13:15
Week 7: Set 1 @ 5:00, Set 2 @ 7:30, Set 3 @ 10:00, Set 4 @ 12:30, Set 5 @ 15:00
Week 8: Set 1 @ 5:00, Set 2 @ 7:15, Set 3 @ 9:30, Set 4 @ 11:45, Set 5 @ 14:00
Restart progression +1 rep.

You can see we are at 3x4 for 3 weeks, 4x4 for 3 weeks, 5x4 for 2 weeks (you can add a third week by repeating week 8 to "stabilize" improvements), before adding a rep and repeating. You might progress slower or faster, but this well be a pretty simple way to keep improving while operating within your tight requirements. And again, add a light day where you're doing 1 less rep but at the same intervals. (So week 1 day 2 would look the same - 3 sets - but with only 3 reps.)

You could also play with going faster on your Rep minus 1 day (the light day), and that can be a fun way to work on getting faster time, improved recovery, and actually more volume - insteed of 3 sets, you manage 5 sets of 3. (I like this a lot, but you have to listen and know when you can push and when you just need to chill.)

Good luck, and don't forget to let us know what you decide and how it goes.
 
I’d do ladders but that’s just me.
+1 especially considering you can adjust reps and adjust numbers of rungs.

For example: If you’re sleep deprived you could do 1, 2, 3 reps or do fewer rungs to ensure you get some quality training in without endangering yourself. As with all training, not every session will be your best but getting something in beats the heck outa getting nothing in. Primus named an album “They Can’t All Be Zingers,” but I digress…
 
Ladders any combination will work. I’ve done (4,3,2,1), (2,3,5), (5,3,2), (5,4,3,2,1), play with your own. Depending on you time availability you can do 1 ladder or multiple. Maintaining is pretty easy as long as you do something. If you want to work on gaining strength I’ve found great success with the above ladders and simply increasing the weight as the reps in the ladder goes down. Today I got 70 reps in just about 15-20 minutes. I did two ladders (5,4,3,2,1) then did 2 more ladders (2,3,5,10) 24kg. Then I when I got home this evening I did 100 swings in 10 minutes. Short and sweet.
 
Hello everyone,
Looking for a workout that's:
- short (ideally less than 15' including warm-up)
- not too much exhausting
- allowing to at least maintain the gains made on Strong! with DCP
- to be held over a few months with possible sleep deprivation
I came across this article:



Do you think that applying this routine 2 times a week on DCP would make it possible to maintain, or even slightly progress, on this movement?

Example, for a 6-7RM @2x32, after a general warm-up of 5' OSR style

0:00 5 reps @2x24
1:00 5 reps @2x24
3:00 5 reps @2x24
6:00 3 reps @2x32
10:00 4-5 reps @2x32

Thanks for your feedback!
Yes.. But given you're using kettlebells, I'd use ladders in lieu of load... Probably going by how you feel (I.e. most days do 1-2-3-4, when you're feeling off go 1-2-3 )

Another good product from Geoff is his strength shortcuts..
 
I also vote ladders. Just one ladder, going as high as you can go easily, will at least maintain your DCP. Done daily, you'll increase it with ease.
 
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