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Other/Mixed EASY MUSCLE (Geoff Neupert)

Other strength modalities (e.g., Clubs), mixed strength modalities (e.g., combined kettlebell and barbell), other goals (flexibility)
Cris said:
Thanks, John. Those charts make it needlessly confusing. I’m going to have to make my own chart showing what the actual exercises and reps are for each day of the week.
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Glad I could help Cris and sorry for my initial confusion.....once I stared at it a bit it hit me......week one shows 1,1,2.....It means Day 1 is workout 1 of A....the next "1" means Workout "B"s first workout then the "2" is workout "A"s second and so forth throughout the first phase and then the same thing in phase 2.

Sometimes I'm as sharp as a marble!
 
Cris said:
I bought it and am confused by Schedule B.

On p. 18, it first says that you'll alternate between Session A and Session B.

But then the chart showing "Schedule B, Phase 1" seems to indicate that you're supposed to do both Session A and Session B every day for 6 straight days every week. If that's so, then what are you alternating?

Since Session A is 35 minutes and Session B is 20 minutes, that's 55 minutes exercise each day for 6 days in a row?

Is that right?

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@Cris - I put up a video explanation in the portal about this.

It's only ever 3 days a week.

Hope this helps.
 
Just a thought: lets all be mindful of how much of the program structure is shared. If you have specific questions about the program and you bought it, maybe DM Geoff directly or another member that purchased it.

I understand the structure I think so if anyone that bought it needs someone to help clarify you can DM me as well.
 
I went ahead and purchased the program because Geoff's stuff always worked for me. Maybe not the fat burning stuff - but I blame my nutrition for it (maybe I should blame myself for not keeping the food clean).

There are 3 programs -
- First seems like a combo version of Giant
- Second is a combo of Giant and other movements (we have a few options)
- Third is a variant for those who cant lift overhead for whatever reason

The layout definitely was a bit confusing and I reread the program a couple of times to really understand it - especially for 2nd and 3rd workout.

ALL Programs as 3x per week. Except for 1st program, everything follows alternating days of A & B variants. And the days highlighted as the day of using either A or B. So for a 4 week cycle you will repeat A or B for 6 times. So each day is for each of those 6 times. If I laid the program out on a weekly basis, the following table might be helpful

Day 1​
Day 2​
Day 3​
Week 1​
A, Day 1​
B, Day 1​
A, Day 2​
Week 2​
B, Day 2​
A, Day 3​
B, Day 3​
Week 3​
A, Day 4​
B, Day 4​
A, Day 5​
Week 4​
B, Day 5​
A, Day 6​
B, Day 6​

The good thing about the program was that it can be done with many different kinds of implements - kettlebells, dumbels, barbells ... So I am very interested in running this with a barbell at some point. Should be fun. or maybe even mix barbells and kettlebells.

I do have the bolt-on programs where Geoff programmed barbell and kettlebell together, so this is more an evolution of the same. The 4 week blocks with the RPEs is consistent from some of the more recent programming from Geoff, so that's similar too.

The bonus videos and instructional videos are also a great value for money. All my double KB technique is from KB Strong videos, and I am a big fan of instructional videos that can help me fine tune my technique with very little oversight.
 
I bought program as another and today start two questions 1. can i use normal straight bar for dips like in muscle up or for any reason i should do it in parralel? Doeas anybody from you do program of easy muscle or giant with Barbell - if yes how do you compare it with kettlebell - i know in program is explanation about injuries but i am thinking about it.
 
mvikred said:
I went ahead and purchased the program because Geoff's stuff always worked for me. Maybe not the fat burning stuff - but I blame my nutrition for it (maybe I should blame myself for not keeping the food clean).

There are 3 programs -
- First seems like a combo version of Giant
- Second is a combo of Giant and other movements (we have a few options)
- Third is a variant for those who cant lift overhead for whatever reason

The layout definitely was a bit confusing and I reread the program a couple of times to really understand it - especially for 2nd and 3rd workout.

ALL Programs as 3x per week. Except for 1st program, everything follows alternating days of A & B variants. And the days highlighted as the day of using either A or B. So for a 4 week cycle you will repeat A or B for 6 times. So each day is for each of those 6 times. If I laid the program out on a weekly basis, the following table might be helpful

Day 1​
Day 2​
Day 3​
Week 1​
A, Day 1​
B, Day 1​
A, Day 2​
Week 2​
B, Day 2​
A, Day 3​
B, Day 3​
Week 3​
A, Day 4​
B, Day 4​
A, Day 5​
Week 4​
B, Day 5​
A, Day 6​
B, Day 6​

The good thing about the program was that it can be done with many different kinds of implements - kettlebells, dumbels, barbells ... So I am very interested in running this with a barbell at some point. Should be fun. or maybe even mix barbells and kettlebells.

I do have the bolt-on programs where Geoff programmed barbell and kettlebell together, so this is more an evolution of the same. The 4 week blocks with the RPEs is consistent from some of the more recent programming from Geoff, so that's similar too.

The bonus videos and instructional videos are also a great value for money. All my double KB technique is from KB Strong videos, and I am a big fan of instructional videos that can help me fine tune my technique with very little oversight.
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i am also thinking about barbell but mixing is good option???? i think Goeff wrote something about it and not recommend
 
I just bought the program and gave it a read-through. I'm a little bit blown away -- I've thought I've done minimalist programs before, but Schedule A might be the most minimalist ever. (This will be my first Geoff Neupert program.) Also the programming is surprisingly complex. I'm used to more exercises with less complex programming, lol. There will be a bit of a learning curve.

I guess the key is to focus on progress over everything else, which brings up a question I'm unsure about: you maintain autoregulation throughout the entire cycle, right? So I need to find some way to lift densely or powerfully enough to hit RPE 9 without hitting the guardrails, right? I'm not sure how to do that, I guess I'll figure it out, but if someone has thoughts on this I'd be interested in hearing them. (Please PM me if you don't want to give too much of the program away. Not sure what the rules are here, but it looks like we're all being careful about what we post publicly.)
 
Is there currently an offer with this, or is it at its normal price? Asking as I don't currently need a new program but I will buy it at some point as it seems pretty cool!
 
Gepet said:
Is there currently an offer with this, or is it at its normal price? Asking as I don't currently need a new program but I will buy it at some point as it seems pretty cool!
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It's good content for the current price.
But if you buy it it may allure you to switch... ;-)
 
I will say I've purchased it and I'm pleased.
However, it seems to require that I learn a new lift.
this is a misunderstanding. any clean and press can be used. I assumed I needed to learn the barbell clean & press.
So it may take me some time to get around to it.
 
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3letterslong said:
I just bought the program and gave it a read-through. I'm a little bit blown away -- I've thought I've done minimalist programs before, but Schedule A might be the most minimalist ever. (This will be my first Geoff Neupert program.) Also the programming is surprisingly complex. I'm used to more exercises with less complex programming, lol. There will be a bit of a learning curve.

I guess the key is to focus on progress over everything else, which brings up a question I'm unsure about: you maintain autoregulation throughout the entire cycle, right? So I need to find some way to lift densely or powerfully enough to hit RPE 9 without hitting the guardrails, right? I'm not sure how to do that, I guess I'll figure it out, but if someone has thoughts on this I'd be interested in hearing them. (Please PM me if you don't want to give too much of the program away. Not sure what the rules are here, but it looks like we're all being careful about what we post publicly.)
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My question as well, regarding how to RPE 9 (really hard) and not push past the guardrails.
 
Paul Bischer said:
My question as well, regarding how to RPE 9 (really hard) and not push past the guardrails.
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I believe one of the ways that Geoff has described this in strength shortcuts.

Since this is kinda based around sets of 5
for an RPE 9, try 90% weight of your 5 rep max.

maybe not an all-out competition max.
try using a max training weight that you're comfortable with on an initial test day.(to give you some where to start)
use a weight that's approximately 90% (or rounded - as close as you can get) and use that weight for the prescribed RPE 9 session.
 
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Paul Bischer said:
My question as well, regarding how to RPE 9 (really hard) and not push past the guardrails.
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I was thinking about it and gave it a re-read and it almost certainly means we have to relax the guardrails on the RPE 9 week. Neupert talks about the guardrails being used to fend off fatigue, but also says that we will go ultra-hard for 1 week a month. And when he describes how to progress, he lists two things you can't do without relaxing the guardrails. I'm really reluctant to relax the instruction on rep speed, but I think it's impossible to avoid with reps this high. It'll probably make more sense to me when I'm actually doing the program.

The thing I'm most excited for is I might drive to a nearby rock quarry and find a big rock to do this program with. If it works with a sandbag, it should work with a rock as well.
 
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Adachi said:
I believe one of the ways that Geoff has described this in strength shortcuts.

Since this is kinda based around sets of 5
for an RPE 9, try 90% weight of your 5 rep max.

maybe not an all-out competition max.
try using a max training weight that you're comfortable with on an initial test day.(to give you some where to start)
use a weight that's approximately 90% (or rounded - as close as you can get) and use that weight for the prescribed RPE 9 session.
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This program uses a fixed load, so I think the only way to hit RPE 9 is to increase density (and maybe explosiveness). I'm pretty sure this is just a matter of us two Neupert noobs trying to stick to the program as written when people more experienced with his programs would understand the implied instruction that the guardrails are to keep things easier on the easier weeks and is relaxed on the hard week.
 
My take on the guard rails and RPE is this: W1, don't go all out, W2, do a bit more than week 1; W3 a bit more that W2, and on W4 go almost all out.

If you want to liken it to music tempos:

W1 is Zeppelin
W2 is Iron Maiden
W3 is Metallica, pre-Black Album
W4 is Amon Amarth
 
The more i think about these programs, the more I like it. I'll do program A as I diet over the next two months. Then I'll alternate B and C a few times as I try to bulk.

Neupert found a way to capture all the benefits of EDT and none of the drawbacks.

I've wanted to try some of his programs for awhile, but not many (if any) seem to be written with single KBs or calisthenics in mind.
 
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