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Other/Mixed Post-apocalipse training

Other strength modalities (e.g., Clubs), mixed strength modalities (e.g., combined kettlebell and barbell), other goals (flexibility)
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Dydo said:
For example, you may not squat with 200 kg, but only with 140-160 kg., but if you are faster, mobile and durable, you will certainly have an advantage over the one who squats with 200 kg. Even in direct combat with him. The same goes for someone who has much bigger muscles than you. Bodybuilders or powerlifters will only have an advantage over the average person or the lightly trained. In a fight with a fighter or for example a crossfitter, I think their chances are low.
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Sure. But my point was that a bodybuilder might not have to fight as often as a trained fighter who doesn't look very strong.
 
TimothyGander said:
Sure. But my point was that a bodybuilder might not have to fight as often as a trained fighter who doesn't look very strong.
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Yes, it is, as it will instill fear. But I agree to an extent. People are unfamiliar and may initially be more aggressive towards a fighter who doesn't look muscular. But! Many of the people who are aggressive and prone to fighting don't care what someone looks like or if they have big muscles. They will not back down and attack both the fighter and the bodybuilder. This only applies to weaklings who would be braver against a fighter who doesn't look strong. The other thing is, the fighter can assert his leadership by going into battle with the bodybuilder and showing the crowd who really is what. Then the respect will be even greater. Of course there are many people who both look like bodybuilders and are good at battle.. If they're also durable and skilled in weapon handling and survival, that's the best combination.
 
Dydo said:
Hoho, there is logic in what you say. Inside the group, he can be one of the leaders, and he does not need to run or climb, but simply grab and throw the weaker ones to the angry mob of zombies. In short, he will have the power to sacrifice the weaker in order for him to survive.
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A "leader" like that is going to have to watch his back and / or get murdered in his sleep.

Or people will just leave his band, abandoning him to solitary existence.
 
watchnerd said:
No, I don't.

I've done a few wilderness survival expeditions, and knowledge and skills were the most important things.

How to stay warm, how to build shelter, how to make fire from nothing, how to find clean water, how to find food, how to care for yourself if you get hurt or sick.
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You and I have a lot in common, between the strength training, wilderness survival, playing the bass, etc. Interesting.
watchnerd said:
+1

Having been shot 5 miles from a trailhead, I can relate.
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Okay that we don't have in common. Interested in hearing more but don't want to pry if it's not a topic you're open about.

Staying on topic myself, if I had to survive post-apocalypse: I think between becoming a hunter-gatherer/early agricultural society kinda guy, keeping myself and my family safe by whatever means necessary, and just the sheer usage of tools and techniques to provide for myself and mine on a day-to-day basis, I'd be sleeping when I wasn't busy doing the above. Any 'exercise' I might do for maintenance or mobility would probably be OS resets, light mobility work, and easy strength-type stuff with light-moderate weights to keep risk of injury (acute -or- overuse) as low as possible.
 
North Coast Miller said:
If I’m the last person alive, I’d be more concerned about prepping my exit dose a la Hemlock Society than anything else.

Death from a burst appendix or sepsis from a compound fracture do not sound like fun ways to go.
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Good point. A nice abscessed molar or two that starts poisoning your brain would also blow. Not uncommon for indigenous folk to off themselves for tooth issues.
 
Training to prepare to loot the local Amazon warehouse:
  1. Run (you want to get there first)
  2. Climb (might have to get over the fence)
  3. Carry stuff (take ALL the food/guns)
  4. Run while carrying stuff (get out before other looters get there)
  5. Fight (there's always a faster looter...)
 
Don Fairbanks said:
Good point. A nice abscessed molar or two that starts poisoning your brain would also blow. Not uncommon for indigenous folk to off themselves for tooth issues.
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I had my first ever abscessed tooth last winter. It was the worst pain I have ever experienced in my life, first time I ever had to take Advil.

It definitely taught me to have some sympathy for people with teeth issues......
 
Eh, beyond a basic level physical prep would be kinda pointless compared to skill training.

A fat guy that can trap and keep warm is going to outlast the physically fit guy who is really really good at metcons.

Being obese also has the benefit of improving outcomes for acute illnesses and injury oddly enough. You have the advantage of being able to waste away longer than a skinny person.

So training would basically be try to get as fat as possible while keeping up strength and endurance before health markers start to deteriorate and hone your hunting, gathering, fire, and shelter skills. Obviously if you are in a middle of a city those skills would need to change.
 
silveraw said:
Eh, beyond a basic level physical prep would be kinda pointless compared to skill training.

A fat guy that can trap and keep warm is going to outlast the physically fit guy who is really really good at metcons.
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Yep.

This whole thread is an interesting insight into the SF community and what kind of real world experience people have with living away from civilization.

Some of the comments sound more like ideas based on movies or video games.
 
Adam R Mundorf said:
I had my first ever abscessed tooth last winter. It was the worst pain I have ever experienced in my life, first time I ever had to take Advil.

It definitely taught me to have some sympathy for people with teeth issues......
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A bit over a year ago, abscessed molar for 12 days before I could get in to see someone to yank it. Not much sleep and couldn't lie down for those 12 days. Ice and aspirin only. One side of face puffed up from a pus balloon the size of a big grape inside my mouth. The morning of day 12 it popped on its own. Instant relief. Got it yanked later that day, was good when it ended. Excellent sleep that night.
 
silveraw said:
So training would basically be try to get as fat as possible while keeping up strength and endurance before health markers start to deteriorate and hone your hunting, gathering, fire, and shelter skills. Obviously if you are in a middle of a city those skills would need to change.
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Cities are a survival benefit when civilization is functional.

But when civilization collapses, they're not and often get abandoned.

We've seen this before in history, with things like the Bronze Age Collapse.

So get out of the city.
 
watchnerd said:
Cities are a survival benefit when civilization is functional.

But when civilization collapses, they're not and often get abandoned.

We've seen this before in history, with things like the Bronze Age Collapse.

So get out of the city.
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It really depends on the nature of the apocalypse. Many times the cities don't get completely abandoned, but do sharply decrease in size. Eg after the fall of Rome, Rome went from a million people to a thousand. But it was still "a city". Trade will still be a thing, just not on the scale people are accustomed to. So advantageous trade locations are still valuable lands.

But yeah, in most cases where food scarcity is a big issue reducing population density is a good idea. There are only so many pigeons and squirrels to go around in the city.
 
pet' said:
IMHO, I think there are two things more important than physical training: skill and mindset
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If you ever watch the show "Alone", the "super survival guys" usually don't do very well. The ones that are OK with being alone for 100 days are the ones that win. Mindset is very important. Being OK with being in the situation is important if you want to last long term.
 
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